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Sound System Re-thread

Post by lowpass » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:11 pm

Grrr last thread got deleted I'll try and retype the gist of it

I was thinking of maybe investing in a sound system

Wanna start small and get best sounding available (so I don't have to upgrade only expand)

Funktion 1 is very expensive, is it really worth it or can I buy an alternative brand and get the same (if not better) quality.

What are your views on Funktion one, do you like the sound?

I know a properly tuned system will sound better than a badly tuned expensive setup, but I will be learning all that myself and want to make sure that if my technical knowledge is up to scratch, my gear won't be holding the sound back,

Any help?

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Post by webstarr » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:36 pm

whenever i've heard funktion 1 the bottom end has been poor, sub completely missing from some tunes

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Post by lowpass » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:37 pm

Webstarr wrote:whenever i've heard funktion 1 the bottom end has been poor, sub completely missing from some tunes
Can you remember what the setup was? what they were using? Stupid question to ask but were there subs there?

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Post by thinking » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:42 pm

Webstarr wrote:whenever i've heard funktion 1 the bottom end has been poor, sub completely missing from some tunes
it's completely down to the setup/soundman. When it sounds good (e.g. Plastic People) it's epic.
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Post by Steve AC23 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:45 pm

Build your own....It will sound 100% better and gradually add to it.

If I was you....go have a chat to the sound man at your next party....someone who's built a rig because its their pride, joy and life.

They will be MORE than happy to tell every detail about it :)

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Post by casual-p » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:48 pm

ThinKing wrote:
Webstarr wrote:whenever i've heard funktion 1 the bottom end has been poor, sub completely missing from some tunes
it's completely down to the setup/soundman. When it sounds good (e.g. Plastic People) it's epic.
+1 to that. one in stealth notts is good too

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Post by lowpass » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:53 pm

casual-P wrote:
ThinKing wrote:
Webstarr wrote:whenever i've heard funktion 1 the bottom end has been poor, sub completely missing from some tunes
it's completely down to the setup/soundman. When it sounds good (e.g. Plastic People) it's epic.
+1 to that. one in stealth notts is good too
Yeah the funktion one rig in stealth is the one I meant, sounding really good in there.

I was thinking about building some subs, Didn't know where to look for the actual drivers though, how much would it cost to build a decent one? Would it really sound better than buying it?

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Post by __________ » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:18 pm

ac23 wrote:Build your own....It will sound 100% better and gradually add to it.

If I was you....go have a chat to the sound man at your next party....someone who's built a rig because its their pride, joy and life.

They will be MORE than happy to tell every detail about it :)
yeah totally this ^

if anybody knows what exact cab design + speaker/amp combo Mungo's Hi-Fi use for their rig, i'd copy that if i was you. it sounds absolutely heavy :)
Lowpass wrote:I was thinking about building some subs...........Would it really sound better than buying it?
mmmm not if you've got no prior knowledge of speaker construction.
hire somebody who knows what they're doing!

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Post by gadders » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:45 am

If you want to build you own cabs check out speakerplans.com

I just built the 184 Sub off that site, didn't take me more than a week and cost no more that about £250. Its a monster lol...

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Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:55 am

hit up used cabs get some new amps take old cabs refit with heavier drivers then build your own after that
cabling is a nice expense most people neglect too

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Post by darkartois » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:14 am

you can't really go wrong with Turbosound too. The Aspect series is top notch

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Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:03 am

if you want to build a proper rig avoid powered unless ya wanna drop cash on mackies or high end jbls

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Post by future one » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:40 am

Turbosound

Those old big blue rimmed speakers are sick.

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Post by lowpass » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:20 am

Deadly Habit wrote:if you want to build a proper rig avoid powered unless ya wanna drop cash on mackies or high end jbls
Thanks for the tips everyone, what would be some decent amps to use for passive speakers?

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Post by noizy parka » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:40 am

It all depends man! But look for CROWN, OSC, or VOID infinate series, Clearly what amps you buy depends on what you need to power, and think of it this way some amps like the VOID Infinate 8 can give you 1350 of each channel at 8 ohms.... or somthing like that. they cost about £2000 new but somthing like that could power most of a start up rig and the less amps you have the less weight your rig is and the less that can go wrong.... BIG TIP learn the Science and do it right.

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Post by darkartois » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:45 am

I'd love to own a phatty system. Gotta give credit to the SMASH Dubstep family in Vegas for buying their own Turbosound rig, which near blows the roof off the tiny venue. I'd think owning your own would spurn dj/producer mates to get their own night started as they'd get mates rates. It'd be a sound investment.

Stay away from Cerwin Vega and JBL. Never heard em sounding good anywhere.

A few years ago before Funktion One blew up I knew they would custom build every rig for each buying venue/club, not sure if its the case now but I know Stiff Kitten in Belfast had a custom set up. F One done right is simply the best, it's the only sound i've came across that you can have a full conversation with right in front of the cabs. Don't really know how it's possible but gizzod dayum it's clean.

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Post by skallion » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:42 am

whats your budget?

funktion one, turbo sound, noise control, martin audio, in that order for me. but they cost serious money.
if you have time and willing to wait for the build i would look into a custom setup.
What music and for how many people will the system cater for? for custom build look into punisher sub horns or lab horns those were some serious subs being used by many uk free party crews. the punishers are easily the best compact subs i have ever heard.

i have heard great jbl systems too, so really as said before its all down to the engineer and the right amps.

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Post by lowpass » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:49 am

Budget Wise I'm unsure,

I'd want to be able to use it for smaller gigs/club nights to get money in to build on it and take it to bigger places for larger cash.

Maybe £1 - 2 k not sure how little I can invest before I can start to see a return. I know it's not a lot but I wanna know what I can do to start off.

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Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:53 am

qsc or crown for amps :wink:

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