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What's the deal with Reaper?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:08 pm
by vertex
I only hard about it today, after someone mentioned it in passing...

The only DAW programs I know about and have tried are:

Renoise (mental but great if you used octmed or other trackers),
Reason (great you've used lots of real life gear),
Cubase (does the job but nothing special),
Logic (powerful but not easy to learn),

So how does reaper stack up against these? It looks a little like Logic which is no bad thing... Does it offer anything that Logic doesn't?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:27 pm
by abZ
It is cheap.

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:05 am
by futures_untold
Reaper is a proper DAW which stands up well against Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic et al.

The built in FX are crap, but it supports VSTs and DX plugins, so who cares?

It does time stretching, and all that jazz really easily, and the routing system is really really easy...

The question you have to ask yourself is, 'why would you spend ridiculous money on Cubase etc' when you could get Reaper?

No dongles, no platform dependancy, no specific soundcards required, no silly limitations like Reason where oyu can't use plugins or record audio etc etc.....

Download it for free from here and try it out..! :)

I'm such a fanboy haha

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:26 am
by slyman
can u use ur computer keyboard in it to play notes. that is all i want because i dont have a midi keyboard. this is the only reason i stick with fl. ableton has it but i like the way the keys are laid out in fl better

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:32 am
by futures_untold
slyman wrote:can u use ur computer keyboard in it to play notes. that is all i want because i dont have a midi keyboard. this is the only reason i stick with fl. ableton has it but i like the way the keys are laid out in fl better
Yes you can do this.

On the sequencer track that you wish to 'play' with your keyboard, assign the midi to 'virtual midi keyboard' from the 'midi inputs' submenu. Next, press 'Alt-B' to show the virtual midi keyboard (or click on 'show virtual midi keyboard from the 'view' menu).

Your computer keyboard should now be assigned to your synth so you can play notes.

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:33 am
by antipode
And its a 5mb download :o

Thats value for bytes right there.

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:33 am
by deadly_habit
futures_untold wrote:Reaper is a proper DAW which stands up well against Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic et al.

The built in FX are crap, but it supports VSTs and DX plugins, so who cares?

It does time stretching, and all that jazz really easily, and the routing system is really really easy...

The question you have to ask yourself is, 'why would you spend ridiculous money on Cubase etc' when you could get Reaper?

No dongles, no platform dependancy, no specific soundcards required, no silly limitations like Reason where oyu can't use plugins or record audio etc etc.....

Download it for free from here and try it out..! :)

I'm such a fanboy haha
holding back a tongue lashing :evil:

oh and OP renoise with all the vid tutorials and whole tutorial side to site can get you tracking proficently in about a weeks time and trust me it's a much quicker workflow than a traditional sequencer and allows for more automation control least imo

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:46 am
by abZ
Deadly Habit wrote:
futures_untold wrote:Reaper is a proper DAW which stands up well against Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic et al.

The built in FX are crap, but it supports VSTs and DX plugins, so who cares?

It does time stretching, and all that jazz really easily, and the routing system is really really easy...

The question you have to ask yourself is, 'why would you spend ridiculous money on Cubase etc' when you could get Reaper?

No dongles, no platform dependancy, no specific soundcards required, no silly limitations like Reason where oyu can't use plugins or record audio etc etc.....

Download it for free from here and try it out..! :)

I'm such a fanboy haha
holding back a tongue lashing :evil:

oh and OP renoise with all the vid tutorials and whole tutorial side to site can get you tracking proficently in about a weeks time and trust me it's a much quicker workflow than a traditional sequencer and allows for more automation control least imo
Fuck yer hexadecimal mumbo jumbo

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:50 am
by deadly_habit
abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
futures_untold wrote:Reaper is a proper DAW which stands up well against Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic et al.

The built in FX are crap, but it supports VSTs and DX plugins, so who cares?

It does time stretching, and all that jazz really easily, and the routing system is really really easy...

The question you have to ask yourself is, 'why would you spend ridiculous money on Cubase etc' when you could get Reaper?

No dongles, no platform dependancy, no specific soundcards required, no silly limitations like Reason where oyu can't use plugins or record audio etc etc.....

Download it for free from here and try it out..! :)

I'm such a fanboy haha
holding back a tongue lashing :evil:

oh and OP renoise with all the vid tutorials and whole tutorial side to site can get you tracking proficently in about a weeks time and trust me it's a much quicker workflow than a traditional sequencer and allows for more automation control least imo
Fuck yer hexadecimal mumbo jumbo
:lol:
that hexidecimal mumbo jumbo is a godsend when working with breaks

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:53 am
by abZ
Deadly Habit wrote:
abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
futures_untold wrote:Reaper is a proper DAW which stands up well against Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic et al.

The built in FX are crap, but it supports VSTs and DX plugins, so who cares?

It does time stretching, and all that jazz really easily, and the routing system is really really easy...

The question you have to ask yourself is, 'why would you spend ridiculous money on Cubase etc' when you could get Reaper?

No dongles, no platform dependancy, no specific soundcards required, no silly limitations like Reason where oyu can't use plugins or record audio etc etc.....

Download it for free from here and try it out..! :)

I'm such a fanboy haha
holding back a tongue lashing :evil:

oh and OP renoise with all the vid tutorials and whole tutorial side to site can get you tracking proficently in about a weeks time and trust me it's a much quicker workflow than a traditional sequencer and allows for more automation control least imo
Fuck yer hexadecimal mumbo jumbo
:lol:
that hexidecimal mumbo jumbo is a godsend when working with breaks
I really don't see the advantage over just chopping shit up via your average every day audio lane. Care to enlighten me?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:56 am
by deadly_habit
abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
futures_untold wrote:Reaper is a proper DAW which stands up well against Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic et al.

The built in FX are crap, but it supports VSTs and DX plugins, so who cares?

It does time stretching, and all that jazz really easily, and the routing system is really really easy...

The question you have to ask yourself is, 'why would you spend ridiculous money on Cubase etc' when you could get Reaper?

No dongles, no platform dependancy, no specific soundcards required, no silly limitations like Reason where oyu can't use plugins or record audio etc etc.....

Download it for free from here and try it out..! :)

I'm such a fanboy haha
holding back a tongue lashing :evil:

oh and OP renoise with all the vid tutorials and whole tutorial side to site can get you tracking proficently in about a weeks time and trust me it's a much quicker workflow than a traditional sequencer and allows for more automation control least imo
Fuck yer hexadecimal mumbo jumbo
:lol:
that hexidecimal mumbo jumbo is a godsend when working with breaks
I really don't see the advantage over just chopping shit up via your average every day audio lane. Care to enlighten me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emvqsKsMNso
and that's just one way
:lol:
even the demo should have a demo tune using offset commands and applying fx directly without affecting orig audio which once learned is a few keystrokes to do

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:57 am
by hurlingdervish
isn't every thing monophonic? that would annoy the piss out of me

a new lane for every voice...god damn

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:02 am
by deadly_habit
hurlingdervish wrote:isn't every thing monophonic? that would annoy the piss out of me

a new lane for every voice...god damn
in renoise? nah
it's a completely feature laden tracker
even has rewire now

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:22 am
by abZ
Deadly Habit wrote:
abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote: holding back a tongue lashing :evil:

oh and OP renoise with all the vid tutorials and whole tutorial side to site can get you tracking proficently in about a weeks time and trust me it's a much quicker workflow than a traditional sequencer and allows for more automation control least imo
Fuck yer hexadecimal mumbo jumbo
:lol:
that hexidecimal mumbo jumbo is a godsend when working with breaks
I really don't see the advantage over just chopping shit up via your average every day audio lane. Care to enlighten me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emvqsKsMNso
and that's just one way
:lol:
even the demo should have a demo tune using offset commands and applying fx directly without affecting orig audio which once learned is a few keystrokes to do
Meh. I'll stick with Live thanks tho.

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:24 am
by deadly_habit
abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
abZ wrote: Fuck yer hexadecimal mumbo jumbo
:lol:
that hexidecimal mumbo jumbo is a godsend when working with breaks
I really don't see the advantage over just chopping shit up via your average every day audio lane. Care to enlighten me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emvqsKsMNso
and that's just one way
:lol:
even the demo should have a demo tune using offset commands and applying fx directly without affecting orig audio which once learned is a few keystrokes to do
Meh. I'll stick with Live thanks tho.
yeah live is ill
should have my copy soon and hopefully an apc40 when not backordered

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:45 am
by hurlingdervish
deadly i can show you how to do some tracker-esque stuff with live that will make you feel right at home

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:52 am
by deadly_habit
hurlingdervish wrote:deadly i can show you how to do some tracker-esque stuff with live that will make you feel right at home
once i have legit version i'm game
i grew up on trackers and an amiga and c64 hell still using c64 for mssiah cart
would love hex style vertical editing in a current sequencer besides buzz or energy xt so i had a hybrid interface

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:16 am
by wormcode
futures_untold wrote: The built in FX are crap
You mean the Reaplugs? They are far from crap, some of the best plugins available. You can install them in any host now: http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/index.php

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:17 am
by deadly_habit
wormcode wrote:
futures_untold wrote: The built in FX are crap
You mean the Reaplugs? They are far from crap, some of the best plugins available.
most built ins are crap via presets but with self adjust can be godsends
ie my fave from cubase quad

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:20 am
by collige
Deadly Habit wrote: even the demo should have a demo tune using offset commands and applying fx directly without affecting orig audio which once learned is a few keystrokes to do
Offset commands are the work of the devil. If only renoise could do actual time-stretching, I wouldn't have to do it the ghetto way. :evil: