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dubstep drum patterns
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:09 pm
by grafactix
Ez all,
The dubstep virus got me and now I'm trying to a similar sound.
The wobbles are going quite well ( did dnb for a couple of years) but I can't manage the drums. For the moment I'm using fruity on my bro's computer because mine crashed ( used cubase on that one).
could anyone hook me up with a sort of standaard drum pattern.
would be great
peace
Re: dubstep drum patterns
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:01 pm
by narcossist
bedward wrote:it's simple:
bpm = 133 to 145.
time sig = 6 bars of 7/8 followed by 2 in 11/8
or, sometimes, 6 bars of 9/8, one of 5/8.
snare should follow bassdrum after 5 or 12 16ths,
with hihats in between in symmetrical speed ramps, like:
x.. . . . i . . . ..x
shakers/tambs should NEVER land on the same beat as cowbell or cymbal,
except if the bassdrum has missed a beat.
note-intervals in the bassline should reflect time-distance (in 32nds) between the highest percussion and next melodic event.
easiest way to imagine it is like a horizon with the sun setting reflected in a lake surrounded by bare wind-blown trees swayin first left, then right.
melodic scales/modes tend to conflate around dynamic axes every 13 or 17 bars.
apart from that, the only rules are:
1. the harmonic progression should ALWAYS be compatible with the melody from "london bridge" sung in ANY key, in the octave above middle C.
2. any percussion sound with duration more than 1.2 seconds should be pitch bent halfway thru.
3. rising melodies should be melancholy or mysterious/brooding, descending melodies ahould be happy, celebratory or stridently affirmative.
4. just Go For It!!!!!!
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:46 pm
by blk plague
yes. but what does it all mean really? number four is the best advise, go for it! youre not going to start making crack music your first time out-no disrespect intended. be patient and keep making music, you'll get it.
my name a borat, great success!
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:06 pm
by grafactix
thnx guys,
but the thing I meant was that when I make dnb you have these patterns that makes the tune roll smooth you know, and with dunstep it's just ??? searching for for the wright vibe.
but hey no pain no game.
hey Borat, nice meeting you
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:00 pm
by Rob H
Dubstep is music. Good music doesn't stick to formulas or become too predictable. Experiment, it tends to be helpfull to have a kick on the first beat of each bar . . . if you still want to base your patterns around others then listen to some dubstep, try barefiles maybe, or use the search button on the forum for all the similar posts
Re: dubstep drum patterns
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:13 pm
by foamo
narcossist wrote:bedward wrote:it's simple:
bpm = 133 to 145.
time sig = 6 bars of 7/8 followed by 2 in 11/8
or, sometimes, 6 bars of 9/8, one of 5/8.
snare should follow bassdrum after 5 or 12 16ths,
with hihats in between in symmetrical speed ramps, like:
x.. . . . i . . . ..x
shakers/tambs should NEVER land on the same beat as cowbell or cymbal,
except if the bassdrum has missed a beat.
note-intervals in the bassline should reflect time-distance (in 32nds) between the highest percussion and next melodic event.
easiest way to imagine it is like a horizon with the sun setting reflected in a lake surrounded by bare wind-blown trees swayin first left, then right.
melodic scales/modes tend to conflate around dynamic axes every 13 or 17 bars.
apart from that, the only rules are:
1. the harmonic progression should ALWAYS be compatible with the melody from "london bridge" sung in ANY key, in the octave above middle C.
2. any percussion sound with duration more than 1.2 seconds should be pitch bent halfway thru.
3. rising melodies should be melancholy or mysterious/brooding, descending melodies ahould be happy, celebratory or stridently affirmative.
4. just Go For It!!!!!!
lol am i the only person to notice that its a joke?
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:25 pm
by spooKs
no. i don't think it's a joke.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:51 pm
by fullyrecordingz
it waz a joke frm anotha post
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:09 pm
by elgato
grafactix, i appreciate that in the early days its hard, but you really really just have to kind of feel it out and try your own things. there are a number of fairly standard formulas for drums which will get the tune sounding decent, but you should really just experiment, fuck around until something rolls out which you like
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:24 pm
by parson
fuck thats one of the funniest things i've seen on this forum
even funnier some people don't think its a joke
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:28 pm
by Jubz
Parson wrote:fuck thats one of the funniest things i've seen on this forum
even funnier some people don't think its a joke
Big up Parson man, not many Americans could do that
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:56 pm
by parson
1. the harmonic progression should ALWAYS be compatible with the melody from "london bridge" sung in ANY key, in the octave above middle C.
2. any percussion sound with duration more than 1.2 seconds should be pitch bent halfway thru.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:58 pm
by ramadanman
bedward's advice is actually wicked - been using it in my last couple of tracks. seriously, pitch bending half way through is the way forward.
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:38 am
by spooKs
Parson wrote:fuck thats one of the funniest things i've seen on this forum
even funnier some people don't think its a joke
i didn't wanna be too blatantly sarcastic in the hope no one would take ME seriously anyway
out to you anyway
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:28 am
by parson
shakers/tambs should NEVER land on the same beat as cowbell or cymbal,
except if the bassdrum has missed a beat.
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:32 am
by lycaon_prod
some actual advice
start with 1/2 step
i.e.
140 bpm
4/4
kick on beat one, snare on beat 3
thats just a startin point tho
if you want yr tunes to stnd out you gonna have to push things further...
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:11 am
by shonky
lycaon_prod wrote:some actual advice
start with 1/2 step
i.e.
140 bpm
4/4
kick on beat one, snare on beat 3
thats just a startin point tho
if you want yr tunes to stnd out you gonna have to push things further...
Really needs bigger letters for that bit I thought. We really need a sticky on a few of these threads so that we don't end up with the same questions being asked again and again. Does also make me wonder why people are pursuing a creative art if they're thinking more paint by numbers than Picasso.
I'm already wondering whether there's a dubstep sample cd being created now, so we can just have loads of identikit tunes created from bits from there - hey, here's your halfstep beat, here's your wobble bass, here's your scary atmos, oh, look - some well rinsed reggae samples and a big snare - hey look, I can make dubstep!!!
It's just a matter of time unfortunately, best to keep the clones on their toes I think and do something different.
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:30 am
by blip
Shonky wrote:lycaon_prod wrote:some actual advice
start with 1/2 step
i.e.
140 bpm
4/4
kick on beat one, snare on beat 3
thats just a startin point tho
if you want yr tunes to stnd out you gonna have to push things further...
I'm already wondering whether there's a dubstep sample cd being created now, so we can just have loads of identikit tunes created from bits from there - hey, here's your halfstep beat, here's your wobble bass, here's your scary atmos, oh, look - some well rinsed reggae samples and a big snare - hey look, I can make dubstep!!!
Hey, don't know about the CD, but the identikit tunes are already here. That used to bother me more, but that is what happens to any genre, no? Part of growing up. I think it happened a bit too fast with dubstep and the halfstep thing, that's why I think what Mala does is so refreshing.
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:41 pm
by shonky
Blip wrote:Hey, don't know about the CD, but the identikit tunes are already here. That used to bother me more, but that is what happens to any genre, no? Part of growing up. I think it happened a bit too fast with dubstep and the halfstep thing, that's why I think what Mala does is so refreshing.
Yeah, Mala definitely takes it elsewhere. Hopefully all the clones will be met with disinterest, but sadly I think you're right on this. Music's like a conversation, if there's nothing to add then don't speak.
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:46 pm
by fushimi
Shonky wrote:
I'm already wondering whether there's a dubstep sample cd being created now
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/1272782
Sting Recordings Presents: Dubstep Samples: Vol.1
Released 14 Aug 2006
!