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How to control wobbles???

Post by Lwrabbit420 » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:23 pm

I know how to change the rate of the lfo, however I can't control the actuall wobbles, I want them to go slow at points kinda like this tune...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ43MzJl ... re=related

I use reason 4 and the current track i'm workin on uses thor as the main bass/synth, and that's what I want to control.

Help would be much appreciated thank you! :)

BTW sorry if this is in the wrong section of the forum.

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by scorcha » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:38 pm

maybe im not understanding, but surely automating the lfo rate will give you this result?

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by Lwrabbit420 » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:51 pm

What I am asking is, how do these artists control the wobbles so crisply? (dammit this is what I hate about dubstep, it's so hard to describe it)

Umm...Okay, when I try to control the wobbles, the wobbles will either speed up or slow down, sounding like "wawp wawp wawp wawp or wawpwawpwawpwawp"
While The tune posted above goes "wawp..wawp wop..wawp wop wop wop-wop". How did he do that?

I know that has to be the worst explanation but that's the only way I know how to describe it..... :u:

As you can clearly tell i'm new at making dubstep.

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by scorcha » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:10 pm

i could be wrong but it sounds to me like the "wop" is just a different, lower note than the "wawp"

and the way producers get that crispness of control over wobbles could be attributed to assigning the rate of the lfo to a knob on a midi controller, rather than drawing it in by hand. but alas im new to producing as well so i could be totally wrong
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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by jesus christ » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:12 pm

if lfo sync'd ????!

ie 1/4, 1/8d, 1/16

:o :o

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by teqh » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:32 am

I think what he means is how does distance get his basslines to change sound like wop rather than wap. Is it not to do with automating different effects throughout?

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by Arshaw » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:35 am

jesus christ wrote:if lfo sync'd ????!

ie 1/4, 1/8d, 1/16

:o :o
yeah this, lmao. jus try syncing LFO speed > Velocity or Keytracking n it'll basically be a simple version of this. but jus automate how you want the bass to wobble, and remember to keep it synced :)

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by futures_untold » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:48 am

A 'tempo synced' LFO, that is, an LFO locked in time with the tempo of the song is one way of keeping wobbles in time. Automating changes to the sync time will give you perfectly synced wobbles that change speed according to which sync time is selected. As pointed out above, they tend to be fractions of 4 for music writen with a 4/4 time signature. (1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32 etc).

Tempo synced LFOs work best on synths where the sound source remains identical over time. This is not true of samplers.

If you are using a sample of a bass then be aware that for every octave you go down it will double in length. For every octave you go up, it will be half its previous length. This is true with real instruments such as the guitar, piano and flute. On a guitar, if you half the length of a string it plays an octave higher.

This is relevant since your sample may have some kind of natural wobble in it. Changing the pitch of the sample will also change the length of any wobble already present in the sample. Samplers with time stretching features can help avoid this.

I'd recommend sticking to a synth with decent LFO options that also allow you to automate the synced LFO speed in the synths sequencer lane. Pay me £50 and I'll do it for you! :mrgreen:

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by collige » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:29 am

automated Tempo Synced LFOs or multiple synths doing the same sound.

Or:
ADSR envelope of a low-pass filter on a sample. Multiples samples w/ different envelopes --> total control
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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by grooki » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:17 am

Kid Kuduro wrote:
jesus christ wrote:if lfo sync'd ????!

ie 1/4, 1/8d, 1/16

:o :o
yeah this, lmao. jus try syncing LFO speed > Velocity or Keytracking n it'll basically be a simple version of this. but jus automate how you want the bass to wobble, and remember to keep it synced :)
anyone know how to have knobs snap to these values in FL?

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by morro_e » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:46 am

use wobble controller man!

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by Sharmaji » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:59 am

the story of O has lots of ideas on control techniques.


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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by selophaine » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:34 am

Sharmaji wrote:the story of O has lots of ideas on control techniques.

Rofl nice one

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by magma » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:05 am

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by tavravlavish » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:26 am

dude just dont make wobbles.. or make really low mellow ones that require no automation, your song will probably sound better that way, unless yer trying to make a :u: rusko bnger _m/

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by grooki » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:53 am

don't have to be making a banger to want to automat some wobbles... I might just come up with the most sublime mellowest wobbles you've ever heard :P

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by MidnightMassDubstep » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:13 pm

Didn't distance record this with a guitar...?
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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by magnetron_sputtering » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:41 pm

MidnightMassDubstep wrote:Didn't distance record this with a guitar...?
Shit that does actually sound like a guitar with an unmerciful fuck-ton of effects on it.
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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by beerz » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:54 pm

u could just not use an lfo and draw the different notes on a piano roll n automate the filter attack.....?

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Re: How to control wobbles???

Post by morro_e » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:47 am

man USE THE FEKIN ULTIMATE WOBBLE CONTROLLER!

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