Can someone please explain Grim?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:34 pm
might be a stupid question lol but im still learning about this 'ere new fangled thingy 
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grim isnt there some label called grim?
is it like grime?
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:07 pm
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:24 pm
you're being ironic, right?Spaceboy wrote:grim isnt there some label called grim?
is it like grime?
Grim isn't really anything - it's a name concocted by the Werk Discs label to showcase new artists.
BUT....
It could become a catch-all term for idm-orientated artists, or ex-breakcore fanatics, or middle class laptop boffins who are now making complex/detailed grime tunes.
Time will tell
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:25 pm
cool...gutter knows! 
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:12 pm
yeh cheers man. Thats the 1st pint for you friday 
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:15 pm
Yea this Grim thing is getting out of hand. I know of at least one or two people who enjoy the dubstep and/or grime sound and have got very confused about some 'new genre' called Grim(m).
It's about 4 or 5 records on one label that are slightly derivative of the sublow sound. That's it. End of.
It's about 4 or 5 records on one label that are slightly derivative of the sublow sound. That's it. End of.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:20 pm
If ur after a pint there ain't no wagon jumpin here 
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:34 pm
i see the"grim dubs" plates floating around in the grime section of my local store. ha.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:52 pm
Yeah true. There're several people to blame for this:ThinKing wrote:Yea this Grim thing is getting out of hand. I know of at least one or two people who enjoy the dubstep and/or grime sound and have got very confused about some 'new genre' called Grim(m).
It's about 4 or 5 records on one label that are slightly derivative of the sublow sound. That's it. End of.
Werk Discs (obviously)
Sam Atki2 and Dubway for using the term 'Grim' on their Ruffnek Discotek flyers.
Me for encouraging them all.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:56 pm
A-aaGutter wrote:Yeah true. There're several people to blame for this:ThinKing wrote:Yea this Grim thing is getting out of hand. I know of at least one or two people who enjoy the dubstep and/or grime sound and have got very confused about some 'new genre' called Grim(m).
It's about 4 or 5 records on one label that are slightly derivative of the sublow sound. That's it. End of.
Werk Discs (obviously)
Sam Atki2 and Dubway for using the term 'Grim' on their Ruffnek Discotek flyers.
Me for encouraging them all.
not me
Dub Boy maybe
confusion on confusion LOL
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:02 pm
clonk
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:14 pm
i think it's useful because there are lots of people post-Rephlex comps mixing electronica/breakcore/experimental ideas with grime and dubstep production ideas, that have few direct ties to either of the existing dubstep or grime communities. Grimm is useful to describe these new movements.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:39 pm
Oops yeah I meant Tim Dub Boy. Too many dubbers innit. I got Dubway on the brain - yer a fuckin star mate!dubway wrote:A-aaGutter wrote: Sam Atki2 and Dubway for using the term 'Grim' on their Ruffnek Discotek flyers.
not me
Dub Boy maybe
confusion on confusion LOL
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:46 pm
Phew, someone who actually sees it the way I do. From my pseudo-journalistic viewpoint, Grim is indeed a useful term.Blackdown wrote:i think it's useful because there are lots of people post-Rephlex comps mixing electronica/breakcore/experimental ideas with grime and dubstep production ideas, that have few direct ties to either of the existing dubstep or grime communities. Grimm is useful to describe these new movements.
I just wish I could come up with a better euphemism....
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:02 pm
didn't Reynolds coin it? my advice is to stay away from coining genre names, artists only end up resenting you (i witnessed Ministry mag try to invent 'disco-hop' once on the basis of one Deadly Avenger 12". doh!).
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:27 pm
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:27 pm
Reynolds was first to use the term 'Grimm' a year so back, although he was actually referring to dubstep in general:Blackdown wrote:didn't Reynolds coin it? my advice is to stay away from coining genre names, artists only end up resenting you (i witnessed Ministry mag try to invent 'disco-hop' once on the basis of one Deadly Avenger 12". doh!).
"Grimm, that’s what I’m going to call the darkdubstep/Croydon t'ing from now onwards. So you have Grime and its taciturn brother Grimm."
Didn't really catch on though, did it
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:30 pm
kill all the journalists!!! 
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:32 pm
that's practically breakcore, mate! mind you, it could fit the Grim Dubs concept quite well - you should send 'em a demo!
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:48 pm
that is breakcoreGutter wrote:that's practically breakcore