Having dubstep for the chill out room in dnb raves

acty · Post by **acty** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:03 am

this is a good concept i think yes?

discuss if u so wish

sek [espionage] · Post by **sek [espionage]** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:25 am

intoccabile · Post by **intoccabile** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:34 am

Dubstep in the main room

Dnb in a tent somewhere outside

shtandardly

owengriffiths · Post by **owengriffiths** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:52 am

Back when I was around 15 and I dreamed of bringing UK Garage to Belfast (and of saving up for decks), I reasoned that the only way to introduce my sort of music to an uninterested crowd would be to play a 2step set in the backrooms of a Deebee or Techno night. On reflection though, I don't think that the sounds of Oris Jay & Zed Bias would have calmed anyone down at all. Today things aren't much different. People don't usually go to the chill out room to appreciate music, hence the name chill out.

I think what you are really talking about are nights that feature different styles of music. But the cynical kind of nights that have 21 DJs (playing a 5 minute set each) and 43 MC's just offer quantity over quality. If I was a promoter I would put on the jungle & dubstep selectors in the same room, and think a lot more about what makes the clubbing experience most enjoyable, not cramming punters in

ozeb · Post by **ozeb** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:52 am

not for me but you might be able to make it work

I am all about showcasing the sound - let the other genres be the seconds and thirds.

rasdisone · Post by **rasdisone** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:53 am

Intoccabile wrote:Dubstep in the main room

the only reason im against dubstep in the chill out room is because it would settle itself there

nattyphysicist · Post by **nattyphysicist** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:07 am

I don't know. Dubstep does not make me chill. It makes me bounce and shock out. Besides, I think it's far better if only the ones interested in the sound are coming to the party.

plume · Post by **plume** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:52 am

the cross over of dubstep and d'n'b fans doesn't seem all that great. Most junglists aren't into it. Most dubstep people aren't into d'n'b... I dunno. I think it deserves main floor attention. Remember when d'n'b got shafted into small corner rooms?

fug that.

edit, that's the way it was stateside at least, when trance and house reigned supreme.

subddub · Post by **subddub** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:01 am

I recently played in the second room at a local drum and bass weekly. I was playing dubstep and this girl kept trying to strike up a conversation with me...long story short...I asked her what she thought of the music. She said that "the music in the main room was too fast and this music is too slow".

I think it was her first time hearing either dubstep or drum and bass.

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:27 am

Absolutely not. In that Redbull Academy interview, Skream was dead against it and I agree - it changes the reason for the music being there - its there for people to get hype to, not chill out to. It means you come at it from the wrong angle.

And on a petty tip, dubstep shouldn't play second fiddle to dnb.

dolly · Post by **dolly** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:59 am

Dubstep to DnB heads is like marmite...Personally, it would annoy the fuck out of me if i was shockin to 'Make Me' and sum jumped up, ignorant pill muncher was gurning in my ear saying 'what the fuck is this SHIT'..but then again i would love to be skankin to 'Left Leg Out' and a girl/boy next to me also going wild but was previously big fish little fish'in to Andy C!

I dunno...its a toughy

robadub · Post by **robadub** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:22 am

playing dubstep in the back room at jungle nights

generally means

empty back room

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:41 am

Whenever I took my non-dubstep-loving lady to DMZ, she always said there should be a second smaller room for people who get a bit bored of skanking (I know I know, unbelievable as it sounds - it happens), that plays electro or dnb.

So thats the way it should be, if at all.

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:02 am

owengriffiths wrote:If I was a promoter I would put on the jungle & dubstep selectors in the same room

OTM

not enough nights have variety in their rooms... its always strict divisions... why not have a progression through different types of music through the night? one of the things that creates all the regressive purism and division in dance music is these very boundaries

at a night i was involved with we'd move through dub / dub techno, electronics, house, electro, techno, dubstep, garage/grime, jungle (in some permutation)... it worked perfectly, the crowd was constantly engaged, they got a broad selection of styles, and with a small amount of thought it was a coherent and cohesive progression

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:19 am

dbl post

BaronVon · Post by **BaronVon** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:31 am

No bad idea.
Alot of Drum & Bass heads seem to boycott Dubstep so putting it in the Chillout room would just reaffirm their attutiude that it aint as good.Just read all the hate on DOA every other thread at one point had some negativity about Dubstep,a very elitist scene in which many people struggle to broaden there horizons from anything more than Hip Hop.I think alot stems from the creativity largely falling out of the D&B scene.Some people do like it but most people i meet used to be into Garage or are recent converts to dance music in general,i was once a Junglist by the way and still am just cant rave to the modern stuff.
Put it in the main room its the future.

robotic · Post by **robotic** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:56 pm

dubstep is not chillout - can't go into a chillout room. and who really needs chillout at a rave anyways?? that's what u do at home or in the park! so referring to it as chillout is just idiotic.

however, two floor-parties with dnb longside dubstep imo are essential for expanding the current dubstep audience. and yes, in most cases you would in this setting find dnb on the main floor and dubstep on the 2nd floor. but the point is not that dubstep is playing second fiddle to dnb (that's idiotic also), but rather it's simple economics: dnb raves still consistently pull larger crowds, some of which are bound to be there for some kind of appreciation of bass (hence the name drum n -bass-). these ppl might be able to get into the dubstep... ya never know!

one thing is for sure: according to the sentiments presented in this thread, it is highly unlikely that the dubstep floor would lose ppl to the dnb floor... so what's there to lose?!? we've done this 2-floor thing in berlin (without referring to the dubstep floor as chillout mind you), and it was a big success.... a triumph for dubstep!!

seems to me like some of u lot are being elitist on this....... . .

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:45 pm

I dont know what it is always DnB and dubstep that are associated. There are plenty of other genres out there...

I generally try to make my sets start out with simple breaks, move into the more dark, twisted breakbeat, and then from that lay down the heavy dubstep. And i got to say it tends to go down well. Everyone seems to like breaks, and then if you can keep a crowd with the dark breakbeat, those remaining always seem to either love the fact you move into dubstep, or go "what the freaking hell damn is this?!!!" and go nuts...(In a good way btw)

Anyway, short synopsis of post is this: Why is it always DnB people talk about, plenty other genres out there dubstep could be fused with in an evening much better. (Electro is a good bet i think)

skunk · Post by **skunk** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:10 pm

they're easier too- same tempo

acty · Post by **acty** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:19 pm

yeh i understand what u man are sayin about wanted it main room, i just feel that it will, and currently is introducing a wider audience to the sound!

The room at renegade hardware was rammo all night and it was obvious that more than half the room wasnt a regular dubstep audience. Hospitality tommoro actualy has FWD putting there name to the room so surely any promotion of the genre is good ?!?!?

also i for one go to dubstep nights to chill out and smoke! thats me

certain tunes make me bop more than others but some ppl go on stoopid in raves.

it aint grime u kno

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