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To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:10 pm
by lowpass
Stop trying to write that amazing song that will make people sit up and notice,

Stop trying to write in a certain style to please other people,

Write the melodies in your head not on a computer,

Write to learn, don't learn to write,

Try to use every song to learn something new, even if the song doesn't go anywhere you've at least picked up something that can be used in the future,

Try to write the worst possible song you can, avoid everything you would usually do when writing a track, try to avoid common key + time signatures,

Write something other than dubstep,

Listen to something other than dubstep,

Watch a film,

Take a walk,

Here's 10 things to help, they might not work, but they are there for anybody who is stuck and can't for the life of them write any more tunes. Feel free to add more

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:21 pm
by rubixdub
lowpass wrote: Write the melodies in your head not on a computer,
:z:

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:25 pm
by yellowhighlighter
oi writers block massive just turn on brutal elektro patch and you be flying high on ket again

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:43 pm
by krease
lowpass wrote:Stop trying to write that amazing song that will make people sit up and notice,

Stop trying to write in a certain style to please other people,

Write the melodies in your head not on a computer,

Write to learn, don't learn to write,

Try to use every song to learn something new, even if the song doesn't go anywhere you've at least picked up something that can be used in the future,

Try to write the worst possible song you can, avoid everything you would usually do when writing a track, try to avoid common key + time signatures,

Write something other than dubstep,

Listen to something other than dubstep,

Watch a film,

Take a walk,

Here's 10 things to help, they might not work, but they are there for anybody who is stuck and can't for the life of them write any more tunes. Feel free to add more
good tips there :z:

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:19 pm
by DZA
lowpass wrote:Stop trying to write in a certain style to please other people,
:z: Too many people are doing this shit

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:03 pm
by krease
DZA wrote:
lowpass wrote:Stop trying to write in a certain style to please other people,
:z: Too many people are doing this shit
:z:

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:23 pm
by nitz
DZA wrote:
lowpass wrote:Stop trying to write in a certain style to please other people,
:z: Too many people are doing this shit

:z:
Make whats smooth in your ears not someone else's!

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:29 pm
by nitz
one more thing while we are on this topic, who was it happen to and when? was there any major consequences?
E.g if your on a publishing deal, so of course your making music everyday as a living and they expect you to be turning out a number of songs in your deal (songs that got picked not the number of songs you make of course) ?
...?

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:59 pm
by 86.
nitz wrote:one more thing while we are on this topic, who was it happen to and when? was there any major consequences?
E.g if your on a publishing deal, so of course your making music everyday as a living and they expect you to be turning out a number of songs in your deal (songs that got picked not the number of songs you make of course) ?
...?
I tried, but I can't follow the question.

Are you talking about having writer's block in relation to creating songs based on one's record deal?
lowpass wrote:Stop trying to write that amazing song that will make people sit up and notice,
definitely this. My current tune almost fell victim to this. So I've taken a week and a half off of that one

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:15 pm
by Disco Nutter
I'll add two:
1. Collaborate!
This can help tons in getting out of the writer's block!

2. Recycle!

Jason

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:17 pm
by chronicrecords
"dont learn to write"

well im learning piano atm so i can "learn to write" better should i stop doing that? :lol:

but for real some good advice, in here. i already do some of em, eg. havin a spliff and watchin a movie :z:

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:11 pm
by AnalGangstaHo
Top tips! Also go back over your old unfinished files and loops you started but never went back to.

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:24 pm
by phrex
stop smoking in the studio! stop eating lunch in the studio!

take breaks and feel those breaks!
go out, have a walk, smoke your cigarette just while you're doing the break. (tea&cigarette rules!)

get impressions from outside, especially now in automn, the colors are quite fascinating... ...inspiring!

open the window of your studio!

WORK SYSTEMATICALLY!

I always begin with a beat. 1 bar.
then i get on with the beat, 2 bars
till 4 or 8 bar. then i will have a complex beat. as soon as i have a beat, i compplete that beat with some little effect spicing up that beat. make a break, smoke, drink tea. then the subbass comes. (side chain it, it's motivation to hear that it sounds great! :D)

and so on...
good luck

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:21 pm
by lowpass
chronicrecords wrote:"dont learn to write"

well im learning piano atm so i can "learn to write" better should i stop doing that? :lol:

but for real some good advice, in here. i already do some of em, eg. havin a spliff and watchin a movie :z:
Wasn't sure if that one would be interpreted correctly,

It meant to make each song your working on a learning experience, as opposed to going through the internet trying to "learn how to write a song".

The same difference between an apprenticeship and a qualification, one teaches you how to do a job through reading about it, the other teaches you by just doing it

@vv - this one can be really important (depending on the producer I guess)

for me being able to load up a new session that already has a couple of reverbs set up, multiple buses for drums, kicks, snares all in a logical order means I can spend more time getting that initial idea down rather than trying to set up al the routing for your project

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:36 pm
by 86.
lowpass wrote:
for me being able to load up a new session that already has a couple of reverbs set up, multiple buses for drums, kicks, snares all in a logical order means I can spend more time getting that initial idea down rather than trying to set up al the routing for your project

yeah having a template is ill. just get in and get on with it.





and I need to get back into the making drum patterns all day. that really helps me as well, having drum patterns ready. I don't start with melody, drums always.

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:38 pm
by hurlingdervish
86. wrote:
lowpass wrote:
for me being able to load up a new session that already has a couple of reverbs set up, multiple buses for drums, kicks, snares all in a logical order means I can spend more time getting that initial idea down rather than trying to set up al the routing for your project
yeah having a template is ill. just get in and get on with it.

and I need to get back into the making drum patterns all day. that really helps me as well, having drum patterns ready. I don't start with melody, drums always.
yea i got a 808 kit ready to go, play the rhythm, replace the sounds after.

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:41 pm
by nowaysj
Don't mix as u go, just write the song, even if there is something you don't like, don't worry about it for now, just move ahead as quickly as you can to get the song structure down. Once u have the song laid out, it will suggest the solutions to all of the problems that remain in the track.

:miyagi:

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:43 pm
by lowpass
nowaysj wrote:Don't mix as u go, just write the song, even if there is something you don't like, don't worry about it for now, just move ahead as quickly as you can to get the song structure down. Once u have the song laid out, it will suggest the solutions to all of the problems that remain in the track.

:miyagi:
This is exactly one of my problems, being an engineer I feel I need to make every single thing sound perfect before I move on, and then I completely lose my flow.

Will need to try writing a track without mixing it till the end one day, seems like the right way to see if this helps,

cheers

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:06 pm
by hurlingdervish
nowaysj wrote:Don't mix as u go, just write the song, even if there is something you don't like, don't worry about it for now, just move ahead as quickly as you can to get the song structure down.
not always the best way to go....

if you have a more chaotic process that isn't just 6 elements intertwining you could spend a week on something that could have been only a few hours work

Re: To the writers block massive...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:17 pm
by phrex
don't smoke shit when you have a block...

...smoke when you're in the flow!
(at least that's what I do, if i roll it and hope it gives me some inspiration, it won't! shit doesn't blow your mind with inspiration when it's anyway empty. it blows my the mind when it's already full of inspiration but can't really make an order... shit will fix that!)
:z: