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WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:02 am
by kingnaya
my friends have said bright piano .. and i try that with a bit of tape delay and stuff.. but it just aintttt the correct sound im looking for.. i mean. ive listend too midi files of songs.. and the midi file uses a standerd piano.. but the pianos that are in the original sound 10000000 times nicer... so can anyone help. does anyone know of a reason refill becaus eim using reason 4.. i dnt want a bunch of niceee pianos.. i just want mainly 1 or 2 or 3 perfect pianos for my olschool riddims im making hope u can help me :) sorry bout the spelling and the punctuation.

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:17 am
by ninjadog

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:51 am
by nowaysj
Make your own old school piano, filter, add noise, detune.

Keep pushing the sound, just cause you are not doing it, doesn't mean it can't be done. Keep pushing.

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:29 am
by wormcode
Look for some Korg M1 piano samples, that's the old house and hardcore piano.

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:37 am
by nowaysj
Wormcode, I've got the m1 le vst, came with a bit of hardware I bought a while ago. I've never really dug into it. Seemed like it had really candy candy sounds. U think the vst can make the sound homie is looking for?

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:43 am
by wormcode
nowaysj wrote:Wormcode, I've got the m1 le vst, came with a bit of hardware I bought a while ago. I've never really dug into it. Seemed like it had really candy candy sounds. U think the vst can make the sound homie is looking for?
Yeah I got that as well, it's the exact old house piano sound everyone used to use back then. The LE version only has the original sound bank from the M1 (with the pianos), no expansions. Lot's of classic sounds in the old M1: Piano16.mp3 @ http://www.synthmania.com/m1.htm

It's a very faithful recreation, I think the M1 VST is a rompler so it's probably high quality M1 samples. If not, they sound damn close.

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:02 am
by knobgoblin
God, I hate the M1. I can understand the appeal of the wavestation vst, but really, who would want to make their signature sound that of an early 90's workstation. Even reasons stock piano sound is better, barely...The reason piano refill is probably the way to go for your needs, tho I've never heard them in action.

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:07 am
by nowaysj
That's a tricky one knobby. To me the m1 sounds so kitsch, which is maybe it's appeal. It does have a sound, you have to admit, and that is more than can be said for many synths.

Maybe its my generation, and/or economic status but I have a sonic sweet spot for cheezy rompler sounds :oops: I will not be shamed!

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:35 am
by knobgoblin
if I'm gonna sound kitschy I'd rather it be in an 80's way...
Exhibit A: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/518773/nostalgia.mp3

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:49 am
by decklyn
Anything really shitty that sounds obviously like a fake piano.
try the freeware mda one
Process it to not sound like ass and you're good to go.

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:50 am
by nowaysj
Knobby, you should be shot and buried (in a white suit, loafers w/o socks and Philip Michael Thomas shedding a heartfelt tear for u) :lol:

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:04 am
by grooki
I reckon detuning would help as nowasdj said... I think a lot also has to do with it sounding "poor quality" or dusty or something...

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:10 am
by nutrician
Try finding some dub/reggae soundfont files for your nn-xt. like this melodica http://studio.dubroom.org/downloads-dub ... icasf2.htm
Add some spring reverb, delay and filtering to your sounds.
You can find good dub making tips and one of the best free dub vst's on http://www.interruptor.ch/

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:10 pm
by kingnaya
ok thanx loadss for peoples help........
so im using reason......... so i should get any piano and detune it??? so im puttin in 2 nnxts into a combinator and detuning them slightly???
stil doesnt tell me with piano preset too start off with ....... i kinda like the chords in this/........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncKHJP7l ... re=related

that piano off beat sound is niceeee.... and resembles nothing like a HOUSE PIANO
lovin the oldschool piano sounds.. and im trying too find one like this in reason but im struggling..
i know how too make my sub with sum tape or tube distortion and im good with my drums its just that piano sound im loking for :(

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:14 pm
by safeandsound
I would sample one piano note ( a middle C?) and then assign that across
the keyboard preferably at an 8 bit SR.

That will give you a nice crunchy and stretched out old school vibe.

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:09 pm
by nowaysj
Isn't the bang there a guitar?

Re: WHAT TYPE OF PIANOS IN OLDSCHOOL RIDDIMS

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:38 am
by moznz
safeandsound wrote:I would sample one piano note ( a middle C?) and then assign that across
the keyboard preferably at an 8 bit SR.

That will give you a nice crunchy and stretched out old school vibe.
totally - even sampling the GM Piano 3 in Quicktime might work if you're really stuck.. then process accordingly - down the sample bits to 12 or lower