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GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:27 pm
by kingnaya
i know this is pure cheeky and gunna get lockd up straight away but ive got my massivee ive made my amaaazingly good patchess... ive got my samples reassy with the effects im using on them and all i am stuck on is the drums........ im really shit at knowin how too compress and eq kicks and getting the snares correct with the rite amount of reverb etc... and how much reverb too put on the hats and im just shittttttttttttt at drums........ is there any chance sum1 can show me were too get a decent kick snare and sum rides... allreddy processd so i dnt have too fiddle....... ur gunna say.... search the internet u will find sum nice ones... but i dnt know if there nice or not.. my ear for drums is shit.... i wans sum nice hardish low end kickd and a smashin snare. sum nice verbs rides... sum1 pleeesee helppp mee... im not a newbee or a novice im just shit at drums there the most annoying bit that gives me a headaache..

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:32 pm
by growlater
Holler at me on aim and I will try my best to help you out.

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:34 pm
by 86.
you can always sample tech house or deep house (or house in general) tunes....I've actually never done this but I know people who are more of the mindset "I want something that's good to go so I can focus on melody and such and spend less time tweaking things....so I'ma chop a kick straight out of the house tune and move on"




and basically, 10/10 times you have a great kick.

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:36 pm
by legend4ry
wow thats confusing, you're saying you have a shit ear for drums but don't you ever listen to a kick drum and think "boom, that'll work perfectically for this track!"

I personally hardly ever EQ my kicks, I only compress them when their dynamics are way to strong and the sound is to nice to scrap.

You don't 'need" reverb on hats and snares...

Seriously theres no rules, just use sounds you like :t:


Just sample your favourite snares and kicks

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:37 pm
by kingnaya
thanx alot for that... i would have too atleast buy a deep house cd too chop the drums from them.. mp3 wud be shit quality rite. well.. i dnt have aim but i have facebook and msn?? any help..

can i hear ur tunes growlater?

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:41 pm
by growlater
I can add you on msn / whatever (pm me if u want) using my aim client, Id be happy to send u some of my tunes. I'm no expert, but I may be able to help a bit.

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:45 pm
by 86.
hip hop as well for kicks. good hip-hop, not gucci mane

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:48 pm
by kingnaya
plus at this moment in time im headphones so i duno........ compressin kicks and dat... i duno.. i can never get a snare the way i iike it.. seriously.. its not my strong point at all..

www.myspace.com/jahnoedub

those tracks are from fuckin TIMEEEEEEEEEEE ago. wen i used reason i dnt even even have them drums no moe!

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:19 am
by phrex
use more than a snare. overlay it with a clap and maybe some white noice.

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:25 am
by stappard
vulvavibration wrote:use more than a snare. overlay it with a clap and maybe some white noice.

NOICE

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:00 am
by old_greg
stappard wrote:
vulvavibration wrote:use more than a snare. overlay it with a clap and maybe some white noice.

NOICE
noicely done there, fuzzly little man-peach

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:10 am
by grooki
try getting reasonably good at a percussive instrument...

and start with really basic drums, like just kick and snare, and straight hi hats. Then play around with one thing at a time, like move the snare around, add another hit, remove them all. Isolate each sound and see what impact it has over the overall sound of the drum beat. Same with trying different samples, choose say the snare again and try it with different sounds, layered sounds etc.

Often the worst thing to do when you get frustrated is to change everything at the same time. Being a bit more modular in your approach can be really helpful in understanding something

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:22 am
by MidnightMassDubstep
old_greg wrote:
stappard wrote:
vulvavibration wrote:use more than a snare. overlay it with a clap and maybe some white noice.

NOICE
noicely done there, fuzzly little man-peach
NOICE ONE GIRL WHERES YER KNICKERS

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:42 am
by deadly_habit
BRAINSSSSSSSSS!!!!
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:07 pm
by FSTZ
vulvavibration wrote:use more than a snare. overlay it with a clap and maybe some white noice.
I used to tell ppl to do this and they would say "you dun need more than one snare"

then that Rusko tutorial came out and he was doing the same thing

big sound from 3 snares and a clap

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:09 pm
by 86.
5-10 sounds for a snare

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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:14 pm
by deadly_habit
that and individually bussing each drum element helps 8)
oh and learn proper layering using envelopes eq and such not just slapping em over each other

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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:29 pm
by 86.
very true....in ableton I deal with the envelopes when layering sounds.

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:53 pm
by FSTZ
deadly habit wrote:that and individually bussing each drum element helps 8)
oh and learn proper layering using envelopes eq and such not just slapping em over each other
.

yeah I have the Guru set to bus all kicks to sub 1, snares to sub 2, hats sub 3 and percs sub 4

standard

Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:11 pm
by lojik
MidnightMassDubstep wrote:
old_greg wrote:
stappard wrote:
vulvavibration wrote:use more than a snare. overlay it with a clap and maybe some white noice.

NOICE
noicely done there, fuzzly little man-peach
NOICE ONE GIRL WHERES YER KNICKERS
Big up on the skins reference lol.