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making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:17 pm
by zenix
hi, i'm trying to make the datsik/excision/16 bit/funtcase/..-kinda sounds for over 4 months but i just can't figure out how to make them.. this question is probably been asked millions of times here, but it's really frustrating to produce everyday when you just can't get the sounds out of it that you have in your mind.
any help will be appreciated.

i use fl9 and reason ;)

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:26 pm
by nowaysj

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:58 pm
by therapist
Use a shitty usb mic to record yourself farting, then record it back out of your speakers, do that again and again.

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:22 am
by Dark Reign
Do you wanna know how to make the bass sounds they use?

Im pretty sure they use massive. Get a nice sounding patch then process the fuck out of it till you find the right sound. All about fucking around till you get it right. Bit crushing, Distortion, Filters all can be used to get more gritty bass.

I just read on this forum that excison uses random noises he records to get his morphing sounds, find or record some noises then load em up in your daw add effects and fuck around till you get sumthin soundin good, layering sounds is a good idea.

Theres also lots of info in the forum if you search for it for making those kinds of bass.

Keep at it man and you'll get it soon enough.

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:32 pm
by Sharmaji
nowaysj wrote:
i'm really amped on how that ends with a pitch-bent timpani.

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:40 pm
by funtcase
i use reaosn too mate...only use maelstrom.

it takes a long time to get a sound you really want, tweaking knobs and finding out what stuff does and that.
90% of the time, in trying to make a sound you want, you end up making a better sound and making a different style tune than what you were intending...i do that alot so alot of my tunes will never be of the same sound.

keep at it mate,itll take alot longer than 4 months! ;)

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:43 pm
by WeBang
You can make alot of Dark Gritty sounds with THOR in reason as-well.

I like to use a SAW 2 octaves down.
Then Take another Saw at some PMW 1 octave down
add a tad chorus.

also what works really good is
the MUlti osc in Thor. Run that thru a filter and a second combi filter. You can get some real dirty sounds with that Multi osc in thor.

I didn't actually read your whole post to add mad Flanger

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:29 pm
by MimikOctopus
Reducing bit-depth and feedback/distortion/overdrive or some noise/turntable emulation will def add some grit. I have a 12-bit drumkit on my Fusion that I like a lot. Also putting your mic up to your speakers to "resample" like someone above posted is another good way. Filters are another way to cut some of the detail out of the sound.

Look for mechanical or hydraulic samples, or if you have the capability, get a field recorder and just record whatever interests you and mangle it up. Or underwater movies. A lot of them have great groans of stressed metal that can become rather menacing if used right.

Hope that was helpful.

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:10 pm
by tripaddict
yeah a bit destroyer is excellent for making anything sound fucked up :)

and a good distortion filter ;)

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:44 pm
by NilsFG
Don't try to be the next datsik or whatever but try to make your own style. Don't try to make tunes that sound just like one of them, make something different.

Those are the secrets

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:06 pm
by jsills
send your bass, put a highpass on the send then saturation, distortion, bitcrush, or all three. resample. modulate. thats a starting point, cant give out too many secrets though.

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:33 pm
by funtcase
jsills wrote:send your bass, put a highpass on the send then saturation, distortion, bitcrush, or all three. resample. modulate. thats a starting point, cant give out too many secrets though.
not a big fan of high passing as it really gives the synth a lack of fullness...i generally find its better to fuck it up how you wish then eq it...can get an equal but nicer sound to it

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:25 pm
by jsills
funtcase wrote:i generally find its better to fuck it up how you wish then eq it...can get an equal but nicer sound to it
cool, im open to try diff techniques. i also will often use parallel compression to fatten up sounds and add fullness 8)

listend to fuuuuk! that shit is off the chain. im gunna have to check out more.

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:46 pm
by funtcase
hehe safe man

well yeah theres tons of things you can do obviously people work to their own methods, i just find to give it a nicer mix high passing synths isnt the way ;) all about the eq'ing

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:48 pm
by jsills
Tru, I've just started to learn how to eq properly so I'm def trying to use it more. Any tips for eqing ur basss? Your bass sounds real fresh

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:07 am
by kp mike
JUR







just use renoise

Re: making dark & gritty sounds?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:42 am
by wrexile
funtcase wrote:all about the eq'ing
After some heavy processing, EQing is such an underrated process. You can get some lush sounds out of bass by taking a few freqz out...
It really is quite amazing how taking something away can give you something so huge : )

I'm having a bit of a lack-luster moment producing-wise at the moment though :| Sucks nadsacks.... ¬_¬