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Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:22 pm
by ketamine
Cut lows out, if so, around where?
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:24 pm
by serox
ketamine wrote:Cut lows out, if so, around where?
nope never. A snare should not really be hitting anywhere near anything low imo.
I may cut out low stuff if I have added reverb but thats it. Depends what kind of snares ur into. I see more people using distorted kicks with snares now days (yuck).
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:25 pm
by vivace
Actually, I often boost some low for extra punch.. but not when layered with a kick.. what frequencies really really depends on the snare.
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:30 pm
by serox
I prefer to use a good snare and leave it. I dont even bother layering stuff. I want one clean good sounding hit to start with.
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:53 pm
by contakt321
serox wrote:I prefer to use a good snare and leave it. I dont even bother layering stuff. I want one clean good sounding hit to start with.
This (usually)
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:56 pm
by serox
contakt321 wrote:serox wrote:I prefer to use a good snare and leave it. I dont even bother layering stuff. I want one clean good sounding hit to start with.
This (usually)
It does not take long to find some drum hits that you want does it? free sample packs (and wares) everywhere. Find a hit that you want and just jam imo. Forget about layering 10 snares + and eq'ing them for a week. Make a tune!
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:10 pm
by ketamine
serox wrote:ketamine wrote:Cut lows out, if so, around where?
nope never. A snare should not really be hitting anywhere near anything low imo.
Wait... you're right, don't know what I was thinking. They're never on top of anything else... Why am I cutting lows
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:17 pm
by serox
ketamine wrote:serox wrote:ketamine wrote:Cut lows out, if so, around where?
nope never. A snare should not really be hitting anywhere near anything low imo.
Wait... you're right, don't know what I was thinking. They're never on top of anything else... Why am I cutting lows
I mean the snare itself does not hit low freqs. Mine dont anyway
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:28 pm
by dav.id
I ussaly cut my snares at 90/100 hz, just to make sure there is no clashing
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:55 pm
by trike12
dav.id wrote:I ussaly cut my snares at 90/100 hz, just to make sure there is no clashing
be REALLY aware that you set your filter to just gently roll off here, if youre using a filter with a steep slope the snare may clash with the kick.
i tend to roll off my snares around 200hz, because it works for me, its not a strict rule.
EDIT:
but how often do you use a kick and a snare at the same time...
nevermind.
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:55 pm
by bassbum
HPF at 95-110hz.
A little resonance will make it hard hitting.
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:01 pm
by collige
dav.id wrote:I ussaly cut my snares at 90/100 hz, just to make sure there is no clashing
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:04 pm
by drokkr
To get things to hit hard or thump I layer. Anything - claps, toms, white noise, found sounds. All of which get eq'd or treated to get what I want from them. Some of my snares have been 4 or 5 hits deep.
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:08 pm
by lowpass
comes down to song structure surely?
high passing a snare can be useful if the snare is stepping on the kick / bass at the same time
if it's hitting by itself with everything being played before or after then having the low end in won't affect the mix
I prefer to highpass it though
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:26 pm
by nitz
Nope, not really.
Like Lowpass down its down to good song structure, i would build my song to that where there is no conflicting problem with the low end, with kick and sub so the clap/snare will be in its right freq content, without conflicting with the low end.
However if a high pass is needed i will so quite a small one, about up to 80/90hz thats it really.
i have build and structured my drum kit to where this problem don't happen in the first place, so kicks and claps i have pre made and i know will work, because i have spend end less hours cycling through 100's of samples with work together and then applied some processing.
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:30 pm
by jameshk
I normally take out anything under about 40Hz, just eats up headroom and dosn't make the snare sound much different. To compensate I usually boost the low mids a fair bit to give it more punch.
-hk
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:37 pm
by lowpass
jameshk wrote:I normally take out anything under about 40Hz, just eats up headroom and dosn't make the snare sound much different. To compensate I usually boost the low mids a fair bit to give it more punch.
-hk
This myth was proven wrong in another thread about highpassing creating more headroom,
It comes down to the specific audio
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:44 pm
by nitz
lowpass wrote:jameshk wrote:I normally take out anything under about 40Hz, just eats up headroom and dosn't make the snare sound much different. To compensate I usually boost the low mids a fair bit to give it more punch.
-hk
This myth was proven wrong in another thread about highpassing creating more headroom,
It comes down to the specific audio
was that the macc thread about the test? if i remember right?
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:00 pm
by jameshk
lowpass wrote:jameshk wrote:I normally take out anything under about 40Hz, just eats up headroom and dosn't make the snare sound much different. To compensate I usually boost the low mids a fair bit to give it more punch.
-hk
This myth was proven wrong in another thread about highpassing creating more headroom,
It comes down to the specific audio
Really? It should create some headroom, even if its minute ammounts. Anyone got a link to the thread?
-hk
Re: Do you cut your snares?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:16 pm
by FSTZ
I cut just below 20hz
it does make the bass a bit punchier in my system
mind you I am usually stacking 4 snares on top of each other