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FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:02 pm
by prime|evil
I actually hate automating in Ableton. I've just switched over from Reason 4.0 to Ableton 7 and I have to say, IT'S FUCKING SHIT!! Not the Daw, I'm really loving the sound quality of it, but to draw in automation in Ableton takes the fucking piss. Does anyone know of a plug in to draw automation easier. I'm not asking for a lot, but it would make it a DAYME site easier!!!!

Cheers fowllow producers!

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:05 pm
by abZ
Whaaaaaat? It is easy as hell, what are you looking for?

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:10 pm
by prime|evil
I'm probably being a whining baby because it's a weird transition from one to t'other. I('ve got use to pretty much everything, but i just hate automating in Ableton. It's too tiny to see and just plain fiddly!! Anyone know if a vst plug in for automation drawing is easier. Even on a 32" monitor I still can't see it properly!!

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:11 pm
by nuane
I think this matter of habit, automation of Ableton Live is convenient, really.

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:16 pm
by prime|evil
Yeah, like I said, just me being a baby. Didn't want a massive convo about this, just a quick reply. If anyone knows of how to either make it easier to see, or a nice plug in that'll bring up a new box for automation, or some shizz like that, it'll be appreciated. Cheers!!

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:37 pm
by contakt321
In Arrange view you can resize the height of each track. Just click one of the edges and drag. Also, in Ableton 8 you can zoom the entire window as well (not sure where bc I don't use it, maybe preferences).

Also, you know you can draw w/ a pen right? Enable draw mode (Command + B).

I use a combo of drawing, breakpoints and copy and pasting.

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:42 pm
by prime|evil
contakt321 wrote:In Arrange view you can resize the height of each track. Just click one of the edges and drag. .
You sir are a gem!! Sweet one for that. Yeah, i know you can draw and stuff with it, I'm just an old man who doesn't like change. (ha, old, I'm only 24!!)

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:51 pm
by contakt321
I totally understand. I have a few grumbles w/ Ableton automation too (most notably the lack of curves).

I love Ableton b/c it's one of those deep, deep programs that you find out new tricks and techniques every day, even years later.

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:04 pm
by abZ
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Well at least you know now :lol:

Maybe we should ask questions first and then if not answered to satisfaction, then slag the program off, or RTFM!

Curves would be nice, I am sure it will have them eventually. I am not convinced you can really hear the difference tho.

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:07 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
i'm a thick tnuc but i figured out ableton

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:11 pm
by mickledan
when I first got it I was a little :o about trying to setup automation for Clips - as it turns out I was just doing it wrong!

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:59 pm
by gnome
contakt321 wrote:
I love Ableton b/c it's one of those deep, deep programs that you find out new tricks and techniques every day, even years later.
Totally agree with that. I only realised how easy resamlping was with it like a month ago :lol:

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:31 pm
by prime|evil
abZ wrote:Image

Well at least you know now :lol:

Maybe we should ask questions first and then if not answered to satisfaction, then slag the program off, or RTFM!

Curves would be nice, I am sure it will have them eventually. I am not convinced you can really hear the difference tho.
As long as you wasted your time finding a cool looking picture to flame someone with to make yourself look big on the internet. Next time I'll ask how to load a Brutal Electro patch or what's the best lube for fucking an alpaca with shall I?

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:58 pm
by abZ
prime|evil wrote:
abZ wrote:Image

Well at least you know now :lol:

Maybe we should ask questions first and then if not answered to satisfaction, then slag the program off, or RTFM!

Curves would be nice, I am sure it will have them eventually. I am not convinced you can really hear the difference tho.
As long as you wasted your time finding a cool looking picture to flame someone with to make yourself look big on the internet. Next time I'll ask how to load a Brutal Electro patch or what's the best lube for fucking an alpaca with shall I?
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If it really makes me look big, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to post it again :lol:

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:49 am
by nowaysj
deee de deee deee <-- Morse code, telegram coming in...

Abelton automation is not that great.

:D

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:09 am
by coyote
also i'll add in case you don't notice, if you turn the grid off you can draw the automation in freehand rather then it making blocks (took me a while to notice that.

i tend to just record it in though unless i want precision (which is rare)

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:35 am
by wsft
contakt321 wrote:I love Ableton b/c it's one of those deep, deep programs that you find out new tricks and techniques every day, even years later.
yeah.. i found out yesterday where do you set the global groove.. after using live for about 2,5 year :u:

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:34 pm
by 86.
wsft wrote:
contakt321 wrote:I love Ableton b/c it's one of those deep, deep programs that you find out new tricks and techniques every day, even years later.
yeah.. i found out yesterday where do you set the global groove.. after using live for about 2,5 year :u:

:lol:

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:00 am
by jsilver
Ableton Automation is sweet.

Do you have knobs man? Record that shit.

Re: FUCKING ABLETON AUTOMATION!!!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:11 am
by abZ
nowaysj wrote:deee de deee deee <-- Morse code, telegram coming in...

Abelton automation is not that great.

:D
lol I am curious what do you think is good? I have seen you slate almost every daw known to man.