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I am thinking about getting PropHead Recycle...but my question is do you have to have Reason before you purchase recycle. So if anyone uses either of these programs your feedback would help...

It's 'Mac', dude.

recycle is for chopping audio in peaces ... reason for composing tracks ...

you don't need reason to have recycle ...

recycle wont make tunes for you... just cut up samples to use in other samplers....

reason is aight...


logic... is fun!

Recycle is great for the ol chop chop. I use it to chop then dump them into Kontakt.

Reason is a fun place to start on music production, it is all sorta there. however, many complain that the sound has a distinctly Reason sort of tinny sound. I think with the right eqing things can go well, though.

thanks guys, well what would everyone suggest as the closest most affordable thing to FruityLoops for a MAC. I am a poor ass college student, and so you know how that goes...

if your a college student you can pick up LOGIC PRO 7.2 for half price. i picked it up straight from apple after gettin my college to fax over my application and course info.

cost me £250 inc. upgrade.... go onto apples site, click on the uk link and it should have a link about student discounts.....

i hope they do that stuff on this side of the pond too...i live down south in the states...how easy is Logic Pro to use, is the learning curve really extreme or what? I need something that is affordable and quick to pick up...i'm starting to get into producing because i spin, so i wanted to take a shot at making some music...

If you are a student you can get pretty much everything for a huge discount, including Logic, Cubase, Reason, Traktor, Reaktor, etc. I am in the States too. Check out www.academicsuperstore.com for the deal. If it is Apple software, you can but it from them for a 10% discount. Other companies may have larger deals. I am a teacher, so I get the discount too, and Cubase was like half price for me. Big up all education discount crew!

So what has the best learning curve then? Or rather what has the easiest without getting rid of all the best features?

for mac I prefer using Logic 7, PC I prefer Live

As far as I understand, the same people make recycle and reason, so they are intended to work well together. The plus with reason, and most programs is that they have a sampler on them. This makes it easier to sequence drums and other sounds you put in recycle, because you can load them into the sampler and sequence them using midi. I don't have a sampler on my program, or at all for that matter, so I export the slices from recycle (you have the option of exporting the whole chunk) and upload them into my program and sequence the soundbytes. It's a bit more time consuming than drawing it in with a pencil, and I don't have some editing tools at my disposal that I could use with midi....mainly pitch adjusting in my sequencer. If I don't like the pitch...back to recycle and the whole thing starts over again. So, you can use recycle with anything...but it is easier to use the pieces it creates if you have a sequencer with a sampler...or just have a sampler/software sampler. I hope this helps.

to b fair i aint had a use 4 recycly 4 years, reason is old tech now to, its much better to get a true stand alone sequencer these days, cubase or logic.
recycle is only goot for makin rex files and exportin to reason n e way, aint the most usefull prog.

Rex files have been adopted into many progs now, ProTools, Logic, etc, but it really isnt that usefull anymore with all of the other options out there.

I have been using Live since 3.0 and I would suggest that for any platform. Once you get used to the layout it is very intuitive. You can chop audio simply by highlighting it and dragging it, it has its own sampler that you can drag and drop audio into and it allows for VST and AU plugins so pretty much any soft synth/sampler is compatible including Reason which can be used like a big soundmodule via ReWire. And thats just on the production side, it has a whole other dimention when talking about live performance.

As for Reason sounding to 'Reason-y', that was before version 3, when they added the M-class tools and overall made it sound better. You would be supprised how much music in all genres is produced on Reason alone...