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5-HTP
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:07 pm
by markle
Who knows about dis one?
If you were outr last night drinkin a little red stripe, smoking a little weed, dancing a little skank, then you might also have indulged in other 'substances'...cough...Corpsey...cough.
I'd like to pass on my extensive raving aftercare knowledge and point you in the direction of a maveloous herbal (not that kind of herbal...) remedy, 5-HTP.
5-HTP is a God send. Take two capsules before bed tonight and you can kiss the monday, tuesday & Wednesday blues good bye. Sorts your seritonin levels right out.
Don't sleep on this one...or monday will be hellllllllll
Get them from Holland & Barretts. Not cheap about £10-14 for a bottle but well worth it!
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:11 pm
by brand new bag
fyi - is known to induce nausia
but totally worth it in the end
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:12 pm
by corpsey
Yeah man 5-HTP is great lol
I always need it after inadvertently getting pissed and being forced to buy beans off people

. I first used it after I had a week long comedown in which I actually wanted to hack my own cock off and sell it as a cumberland sausage.
I haven't got any at the moment, think my housemate does...
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:24 pm
by markle
Corpsey wrote:Yeah man 5-HTP is great lol
I always need it after inadvertently getting pissed and being forced to buy beans off people

. I first used it after I had a week long comedown in which I actually wanted to hack my own cock off and sell it as a cumberland sausage.
I haven't got any at the moment, think my housemate does...
I'll be happy to post you some if there is a draught...don't want you to lose ya manhood.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:29 pm
by markle
brand new bag wrote:fyi - is known to induce nausia
I've never had that side effect luckily...It's normally the gallons of booze and cheap drugs that make me do that!
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:42 pm
by ken and ryu
5-HTP is just another name for serotonin. The 'happy' hormone.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:46 pm
by owengriffiths
As far as I know 5htp is better suited for people coming off e's (like valium, it can eliminate the harmful effects that the drug does to your brain).
If you are a drinker, then what you need is Milk Thistle, which is a lot easier to get hold of than 5htp (and cheaper, I think) and will help you avoid getting a liver like George Best once you reach the age of 45. You can buy it in Tesco but they are the shit ones which are too weak. The 450mg ones from a company called Bio Health come in a white bottle with a large dark green sticker. They're not availiable in Holland & Barret so look for it in other health food shops.
As for Milk Thistle actually asissting you with your hang over? No, don't think so, it's just a way of protecting your long term health. Feel free to take 5htp and Milk Thistle at the same time if you want to, as well as rhodiola which is a similar drug to both of them.
BUT BEWARE, THESE DRUGS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO REACT BADLY WHEN COMBINED WITH PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND SOME PHARMACY DRUGS (IE. PAINKILLERS), SO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE SHOP. FOR EXAMPLE, ST JOHN'S WORT WAS BANNED IN THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND FOR THIS REASON.
Best hangover cure: Drink less, and have a glass of h20 in between every beer.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:53 pm
by jack sparrow1
check offtopic bruv for sleep remedies and such
5htp saved my sanity
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:54 pm
by parson
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:30 pm
by markle
owengriffiths wrote:Best hangover cure: Drink less, and have a glass of h20 in between every beer.
...and have a shit night.
I had a zoot between every beer and a quick dab. Feel shit still, don;t regret it.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:40 pm
by owengriffiths
It's easier for me though, because I'm lightweight and don't need much to get fucked. In fact, all that would happen is that I would get dizzy and sick. But I find that come the end of the night you're only buying drinks because you feel naked without a glass in your hand, you won't enjoy yourself anymore when said pint is purchased. It's like putting sugar in your tea, after eight spoonfulls it isn't going to taste any sweeter no matter how much more you put in. Same goes with alcohol (too an extent). And here's an urban myth that needs to be broken. Drinking water while being on the piss does not make you less drunk, it just stops you from dehydrating.
Pace yourself. By following my rules I can count the amount of hangovers I have on one hand this last year, and I drink several times a week
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:40 pm
by little boh peep
ken and ryu wrote:5-HTP is just another name for serotonin. The 'happy' hormone.
Technically it's the percursor to serotonin. The amino acid tryptophan converts to 5-hydroxytryptophan, which then converts to serotonin.
owengriffiths wrote:As far as I know 5htp is better suited for people coming off e's (like valium, it can eliminate the harmful effects that the drug does to your brain).
It's suited for anyone who needs a serotonin boost, as low serotonin levels are linked with mood disturbances, appetite (particularly carb cravings), PMT (serotonin levels take a nosedive during the luteal phase of a woman's cycle), migraines, sleeplessness, even sex drive. Mitigating post-pill crash is one use.
jack sparrow1 wrote:5htp saved my sanity
I'm pleased it's working out for you.

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:51 pm
by owengriffiths
5htp, st johns wort, rodiola et al did fuck all for me, so I stopped taking them as they weren't exactly cheap on the wallet. Still swear by milk thistle though, dont want to crash and burn george best style. But not taking 5htp after an ecstasy session is just plain foolishness.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:08 am
by hate recordings
5htp isnt for everyone. it makes me angry and severly depressed. i mean SEVERLY depressed and the effects can last upward and onwards for 2 weeks.
but this is just me. i hear it works wonders for everyone else.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:38 pm
by dub boy
good in the short term but take too much of this stuff and you're serotonin levels will be fucked for years to come!!
This doesn't doesn't create serotonin from thin air ya know, it just encourages your body to produce more when u need it and your body doesn't have an unlimited supply
It will all catch up with you in the end

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:31 pm
by mudda
IMHO - ride that shit out. No point forcing an already exhausted seratonin gland to make more hormone. It only stretches out recovery in the long term...
Lil Boh Peep - resident pharmaceutical advisor and alchemic

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:45 pm
by relaks
only way to beat a dubstep hangover is by drinking 6-12 pints. I mean, shit, I am MASTER of the 3 day hangover, and I don't eve do drugs anymore.
Beat a hangover? Stay drunk. Works for me. And women find a beer belly very sexy. Until it gets too big for you to look down and see your own cock. At that point; you've gone too far.
Big up the early am stella crew!

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:41 pm
by afincham83
i took this shit daily for a couple of months. it will start to fuck with your sleep
patterns. even when i stopped i couldnt sleep well for a few months. beware.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:55 pm
by markle
relaks wrote:Beat a hangover? Stay drunk. Works for me
"To beat the pain, take more of the same"

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:05 am
by little boh peep
Hate Recordings wrote:5htp isnt for everyone. it makes me angry and severly depressed. i mean SEVERLY depressed and the effects can last upward and onwards for 2 weeks.
but this is just me. i hear it works wonders for everyone else.
It's a phenomenon called paradoxical pharmacology. Out of curiousity does it happen to you with other substances as well? Like caffiene makes you drowsy?
Common sense says if one cains just about anything longterm, there will be consequences. Ibuprofen for example can cause liver damage.