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Soca and calypso influences in dubstep
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:59 am
by intoccabile
Some time ago I played dubstep for the first time to some of my Trini friends who are into soca and calypso and they went NUTS !
And that got me thinking... my ! dubstep does borrow a lot from soca and calypso !
The groove, the swing... I wonder... how did the west indian / carribean influence infiltrate dubstep ? How did this happen ?
Listen to a track like " B ", for example... so many other tracks...
If you're familiar with soca and calypso, you can hear the similarities
What do you people think ?
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:12 am
by blackdown
in the early days of dubstep the soca beat was an alternative to the standard 2step kick-snare-kick-snare pattern. you can also hear the soca beat pattern in horsepower's 'classic delux' as well as Agent X's 2step garage anthem 'decoy'.
the soca beat still has kicks on the first and third beat, but has two other kicks three eights after the first and third beat. the snares are then both delayed by half a beat, falling on the second-and-a-half and fourth-and-a-half. this gives a lilting kinda skank to the track, rather than the stiffness of the kick-snare-kick-snare pattern.
as a further thought i'm glad halfstep came along. it opened up loads of other rhythmic posibilities. kick-snare-kick-snare was becoming a dead end.
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:54 am
by dub boy
I don't know the technicalities of it all, but I love soca and hear alot of similarities in the snares, tempos and beat patterns as dubstep. These days not many types of music make me brock out wildly, but soca definately does! Pure part music... it's there for no other reason imo
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:30 am
by logos
There certainly seemed to be a Soca influence when dubstep and garage were still a bit indistinct and styles were coalescing. In about 2002 you had tracks (as blackdown says) like Classic Deluxe. Also the Buck and Bury 12 on Ghost, and who remembers Hype's Pussy Trak - Socatastic!
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:50 am
by joseph-j
Flip me, I'd forgotten about Pussy Track. That was a banger.
I think the double-kick thing was to create something a bit closer to dancehall etc than the american-style garage with its 4/4 beats.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:49 pm
by dubmugga
check out our trak "predator"...
...here's what a certain someone had to say a bout it a while ago
the tune is big
like Hype's Pussy track but with the funky skank of broken beat
big up
9
kode 9
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:39 am
by r33lc4sh
soca beat is actually a typical west african beat which is also used in some north african folk music - i've used it in some of my tracks
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:25 pm
by minusdegree
Steel drums have sucj a lovely sound, definately you'd hear ina skream tune...
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:15 pm
by dq
Logos wrote:and who remembers Hype's Pussy Trak - Socatastic!
Exactly! This was the first tune that came to mind when I saw the topic. What a piece of pure destruction this riddim was when it came out. I remember how excited Kode 9 was to play it on his Groovetech radio show back in the day
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:18 pm
by logos
dq wrote:Logos wrote:and who remembers Hype's Pussy Trak - Socatastic!
Exactly! This was the first tune that came to mind when I saw the topic. What a piece of pure destruction this riddim was when it came out. I remember how excited Kode 9 was to play it on his Groovetech radio show back in the day
lol i remember tuning into the groovetech show on dial-up!