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Im intrigued, does everyone start out proper swag, because my first tunes sounded like underwater rape. How long did it take u guys 2 get a "decent" level (by decent i mean, dj's cud actually drop ur tunes)... im bare curious...im still relativley new (1 - 1 and a half years sincei downloaded fl 7 demo, goodtimes )

And how bad were u guys' first tunes... drop links if they still exist! lol

My first stuff was so shocking. Not much better now tbh.

2 years now, improved alot but still shit. But I don't give a fuck I still enjoy it

about a year and a bit before I hit the "decent but also forgettable in the grand scheme of music" category.

they were memorable in that it was original (or at least I thought so), but forgettable because the quality was womp womp.

I'd love to revamp some of the older shit. strip all audio tracks of effects and all, and start a new mix down. but different programs, lost samples....I couldn't even identify where some of the samples came from listening to them again.

will post some older shit later on

Blue Patterns wrote:about a year and a bit before I hit the "decent but also forgettable in the grand scheme of music" category.

they were memorable in that it was original (or at least I thought so), but forgettable because the quality was womp womp.

I'd love to revamp some of the older shit. strip all audio tracks of effects and all, and start a new mix down. but different programs, lost samples....I couldn't even identify where some of the samples came from listening to them again.

will post some older shit later on

LOOL that is jokes, yh i rmemeber pretty much all my stuff made in the first 2 months was on presets, now i dnt use any presets at all...

wud like to think ive improve alot tbh....

and to the guy who sed he doesnt give a shit cuz he still enjoys it, that is a great point I LUV MAKING MUSIC..

16 years and everyday is still a school day.....

akira kiteshi wrote:16 years and everyday is still a school day.....

seriously

coming from someone like you that makes me feel better

I have been producing for a long time and my tunes are still hit & miss

About 6 months ago I had a big step up in my music and around then I started getting regular airplay from folk. It seems at the moment every track I do is better then the last. As AK mentioned everyday is a school day, this is so true.

The day I stop learning is the day I stop making music.

what is your definition of good?

rusko good? benga good? or Kode9 good?

No comparing yourself to someone else good?

frank grimes jr. wrote:No comparing yourself to someone else good?

nah seriously, I had my breakthrough after 2 years of producing.. not to say I am good, but I had an A-HA! moment and now I write down idea's down quicker

akira kiteshi wrote:16 years and everyday is still a school day.....

This but I am kinda slow tbh short bus business. I have been twiddling knobs for like 20 years and production almost that long too I am going to be good when I grow up though

In the past 3 months there has been a significant step forward in my production... now, does that mean I'm good? no. better, yes.

for me i've been djing since 98 but been producing almost 2yrs now my 1st 6months the tracks had great idea's cause i was djing a long time before but the

tracks never made sence but the 1st 1yr i was pretty much addicted all i did was go to work and music lol but only realise its been almost 2yrs now well i think

my trax are still crap but has improved alot since but also the 1st yr was doing it all by my self none of my mates are into production and i also was not on

forum's but i've improved alot from computer music mags,forum,soundcloud but yes everytime i start on a new track i learn new things i guess the last few

weeks i've been a little frustrated cause i think my beats has not been going anywhere but i just finish a new track today and i think its probably the best 1 so

far well looking forward starting on a new track already...but will keep pushing love it to much its so much fun..getting feed back on my own creations is like

playing a big set in front of thousand of people well it is for me..

Sinus Sawtooth wrote:what is your definition of good?

rusko good? benga good? or Kode9 good?

i trust ur latter questions r rhetorical, BENGA, JOKER, > AMAZING, so the average guy on here is at the level i perceive 2 b good, once u exceed the stage where techinacility is at acertain level, ie quality mixdown etc etc. u r at 'good' level, then the only thing setting u apart frm the top guys is that little x factor and creativity that u just cht teach... imo (rightly or wrongly ) most producers hav made tunes that they think r on par with top producers but r 2 modest 2 say so....

I got confident in my technical skills and musical ideas after about 2 years. I feel in the last 10-8 months my tracks are on a fairly decent level though still learning every day 'nd bettering than the last.

Still think there's two things there, production and creating music. I just started paying attention to production value, and have finally started to get somewhere on that front, but for every step forward I've taken there, I've taken 8 1/2 backwards on the musical front. That sucks.

Pretty much Abz and me fighting for the back seat on that short buss.

akira kiteshi wrote:16 years and everyday is still a school day.....

innit, no joke

if you wanna truely excell you never stop learning
it can always be better

but to answer the question, about 2 years to get past the 'forgettable' pap as it were

15 years and still learning more everyday

nowaysj wrote:Still think there's two things there, production and creating music. I just started paying attention to production value, and have finally started to get somewhere on that front, but for every step forward I've taken there, I've taken 8 1/2 backwards on the musical front. That sucks.

Pretty much Abz and me fighting for the back seat on that short buss.

ah yeah man! I have the same

producing skills go up, creativity goes down... I know how to get the sound I want, how to get it mixed down properly, but since I have this little ruleset in my head about producing the creativity seems to go down...

I used to poop out tracks like it was nothing... but well, that was breakcore... get amen break, distort, cut, rearrange, get gabba kicks, get reggae samples, arrange, GO GO GADGET +5 DB FOR EXTRA DISTORTION, export to mp3, upload to myspace, do the hoolahoop