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Anyone else having joy using this?!

It worked then??

Reaper can do some cool stuff (like any mainstream host really).

I do need to sit down and customise my toolbar and right-click context menus though. Customising Reaper would make it even faster at doing basic stuff like editing, reversing samples, normalising waveforms etc etc

I'm glad I bought it and don't see myself using another DAW or audio editor for the forseeable future...!

I'm thinking of changing from reason to reaper.

The last few months I started to realise I really have to change software. Been using reason since I first got a midi keyboard and I bought reason with it since the guy in the store said it was one of the more easy DAW's (It's not even a real DAW). I loved it ever since, but it has been a good 4 years, and the limits are starting to bug me.

Reaper looks pretty attractive and reminds me of soundforge/acid. Used both of those some times in school...

You guys think it's worth it to change and lose everything I learned about reason, and to start off fresh?

kejk wrote:I'm thinking of changing from reason to reaper.

The last few months I started to realise I really have to change software. Been using reason since I first got a midi keyboard and I bought reason with it since the guy in the store said it was one of the more easy DAW's (It's not even a real DAW). I loved it ever since, but it has been a good 4 years, and the limits are starting to bug me.

Reaper looks pretty attractive and reminds me of soundforge/acid. Used both of those some times in school...

You guys think it's worth it to change and lose everything I learned about reason, and to start off fresh?

What limits have you found? I started on Reason and then went to Cubase, FL and now back on Reason4 and getting the best results ever.

serox wrote:What limits have you found? I started on Reason and then went to Cubase, FL and now back on Reason4 and getting the best results ever.

Well the thing is, as much as I love reason, it really is starting to grow on me that we can't use VSTi's or audio. Plus I never liked the interface... the sequencer is fine, but you can't maximise the rack, I mean... Come on :S

I love reason, recently also got record . Now it rocks even more.

Reaper is totally worth it mate. real nice quality sound, vstis, audio, all that jazz!! And it's just as easy to use as reason. Sure I've found somethings a bit confusing, but then again, that's cosI'mstill a bit of a n00b..ish! It's all pretty much the same as anyother daw, it's just labeled differently. And it's free! (Well, until the evaluation period runs out, but I reckon I will actually buy it. Worth it fully)

i know, i actually also have reaper. But only use it with some free VSTi and FX plugs for some resampling. Other than that I prefer reason. I love the workflow. I dont feel like learning a new daw, since i dont have much time to produce music in the first place. Its a preference thing.

kejk wrote:

serox wrote:What limits have you found? I started on Reason and then went to Cubase, FL and now back on Reason4 and getting the best results ever.

Well the thing is, as much as I love reason, it really is starting to grow on me that we can't use VSTi's or audio. Plus I never liked the interface... the sequencer is fine, but you can't maximise the rack, I mean... Come on :S

The 3 synths that come with Reason can do nearly anything imo.

That with the use of samples and job done:)

kejk wrote:

serox wrote:What limits have you found? I started on Reason and then went to Cubase, FL and now back on Reason4 and getting the best results ever.

Well the thing is, as much as I love reason, it really is starting to grow on me that we can't use VSTi's or audio. Plus I never liked the interface... the sequencer is fine, but you can't maximise the rack, I mean... Come on :S

Why not just download Reaper and at least give it a go? 30 days for free i believe before you're inclined to pay.

Reaper opens up my default template so fast I can start recording audio in under 10 seconds! : (User of other software will no doubt be weeping to hear this haha)

I now use Reaper exclusively for both audio recording and editing, having ditched Adobe Audition completely in the process...! I also use it for all my midi work, finding the midi interface to be better than Reasons but not as horrible as Cubase. Automation has been completely pimped, making it the easiest automation system I know of.

Reaper remains fully functional even after the intial 30 day evaluation period is over. I used Reaper in 'evaluation mode' for over 2 years before finally shelling out! (The nag screen was so annoying after two years it was worth $60 just to be rid of it haha)

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Reaper out of the box looks ugly to some, and its many (overly) long context sensitive menus are offputting to others. Luckily, Reaper accepts custom visual themes, allowing people to create their own skins from scratch. There are even skins based on other mainstream software like Cubase, Logic, Live, FL Studio, Traction, Soundforge and Audition. Combined with the custom actions editor, it is possible to completely refine Reapers interface down to the style and controls that you actually need and use. It is possible to change the menu items on each menu, and the actions performed on the main toolbar.

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Audio and control voltage (CV) routing in Reason works exactly as one would expect in a real hardware studio. The ease of seeing what you're doing when rerouting cables makes setting up inserts, sends and buses easy as pie. Traditional DAW programs don't maintain that visual aspect, yet the functionality remains. If you understand inserts, sends and buses, working with new hardware or software becomes merely a matter learning the new user interface.

Because learning routing in Reason is so easy, it makes it a great starter program for people new to production.

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@ kejk

You won't actually need to start from fresh, as many of the concepts and functions you are used to in Reason are also used in Reaper. Examples include sequencer lanes, midi editing, automation lanes and the master mixer.

Using effects and plug-in instruments is as simple as pressing the 'FX' button on the desired track and selecting it from the list that pops up. This is true of both effects and instrument plug-ins.

Routing is slightly less intuitive, but is actually very easy if you truly understand buses.

It works like this:

Create a new sequencer track. This will be your bus! All you need to do is click on the I/O (In / Out) button on the new sequncer track and select the channel number you wish to recieve audio from from the 'Add New Recieve' drop down menu. You now have an active bus!

The send amount is controlled by the fader that is created on the pop up screen (or directly on the corresponding channel strip on the mixer). The return amount is controlled by the channels normal volume fader.

In fact, that is pretty much how all the mainstream DAW software operates...!

Said it before, I'll say it again:

Reaper changed my music for the better.

What's that you say? How can software possibly make what's in your head any better, Alphacat? That violates the "Tools ≠ Talent" maxim, doesn't it?

I was a longtime Acid Pro user - in fact, I used it for so long that I didn't realize that I'd accepted that program's limitations and buggy shit, coming up with all sorts of ridiculous workarounds to do basic stuff.

But once I got on Reaper it was obvious how much I'd been putting up with for all those years. Better vst support, better MIDI editing capabilities, infinitely better timestretching, and mega-uber-infinitely better routing options...

And it all sounds too good to be true. Full functionality without paying - the 30 days doesn't end your full function trial, just creates a nag screen at startup but that doesn't lock the track until the screen's gone. Oh, and a 4 MB install instead of a 700 MB install [like Acid]? Yes please! And while you're at it, send 'em some money, because if anybody in this industry deserves it THEY DO.

One other thing I've said before but will repeat:

Reaper makes me want to kick Sony in the balls for wasting so much of my musical time.

Another way to make Repear work just like Reason.

I just learned an ultra fast technique for setting up buses.

1> Insert a new track to use as your bus.

2> Left-click-drag the I/O button of the track you wish to send audio from onto any part of the track you wish to use as your bus. A new send will automatically be set up! (When you left-click-drag from the sending tracks I/O button, the mouse cursor icon changes to a small audio jack icon).

This is pretty much like routing wires in Reason, only wou can't actually see the wire itself.

Peas

futures_untold wrote: @ kejk

You won't actually need to start from fresh, as many of the concepts and functions you are used to in Reason are also used in Reaper. Examples include sequencer lanes, midi editing, automation lanes and the master mixer.

Using effects and plug-in instruments is as simple as pressing the 'FX' button on the desired track and selecting it from the list that pops up. This is true of both effects and instrument plug-ins.

Routing is slightly less intuitive, but is actually very easy if you truly understand buses.

It works like this:

Create a new sequencer track. This will be your bus! All you need to do is click on the I/O (In / Out) button on the new sequncer track and select the channel number you wish to recieve audio from from the 'Add New Recieve' drop down menu. You now have an active bus!

The send amount is controlled by the fader that is created on the pop up screen (or directly on the corresponding channel strip on the mixer). The return amount is controlled by the channels normal volume fader.

In fact, that is pretty much how all the mainstream DAW software operates...!

Aight, that sounds pretty familiar. The only thing I don't quite get is the term "bus". Is it just an empty channel with an insert effect?

Sigh, it's so annoying, I want to give Reaper a try but I just moved abroad and I don't have my broadband connection set up just yet... It was supposed to be here 2 days ago, 3 x hooray for virgin media.

How long does it take to resample a bass in reaper, cause that is one of the things that has really me put me off of reason.

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@ Serox,

I know Thor, Mal and Subtractor are great, but it just bugs me that I can't use audio. Except from triggering audio using midi.

Don't you ever want to timestretch / reverse, without having to go into audacity?

Don't get me wrong, I've used and loved reason for quite a few years, and I still love it. I just need to move on.

kejk wrote:

futures_untold wrote: @ kejk

You won't actually need to start from fresh, as many of the concepts and functions you are used to in Reason are also used in Reaper. Examples include sequencer lanes, midi editing, automation lanes and the master mixer.

Using effects and plug-in instruments is as simple as pressing the 'FX' button on the desired track and selecting it from the list that pops up. This is true of both effects and instrument plug-ins.

Routing is slightly less intuitive, but is actually very easy if you truly understand buses.

It works like this:

Create a new sequencer track. This will be your bus! All you need to do is click on the I/O (In / Out) button on the new sequncer track and select the channel number you wish to recieve audio from from the 'Add New Recieve' drop down menu. You now have an active bus!

The send amount is controlled by the fader that is created on the pop up screen (or directly on the corresponding channel strip on the mixer). The return amount is controlled by the channels normal volume fader.

In fact, that is pretty much how all the mainstream DAW software operates...!

The only thing I don't quite get is the term "bus".

Sending an x amount of channels into 1, i.e. sending your kick, snare and hihat channels into 1 channel i.e. drums

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@ Serox,

I know Thor, Mal and Subtractor are great, but it just bugs me that I can't use audio. Except from triggering audio using midi.

Don't you ever want to timestretch / reverse, without having to go into audacity?

Don't get me wrong, I've used and loved reason for quite a few years, and I still love it. I just need to move on.[/quote]

Project EX wrote: Sending an x amount of channels into 1, i.e. sending your kick, snare and hihat channels into 1 channel i.e. drums

So if I'm right a bus is like a Spider audio or Spider CV unit in Reason?

You dont even need that actually. The way I bus my shit in reason is as follows:

Lets take drums as an example. When you have a 6:2 mixer with channels kick, snare and hat, you just simply route the main out of the 6:2 mixer in your main/master mixer in channel 1 for example.

Project EX wrote:You dont even need that actually. The way I bus my shit in reason is as follows:

Lets take drums as an example. When you have a 6:2 mixer with channels kick, snare and hat, you just simply route the main out of the 6:2 mixer in your main/master mixer in channel 1 for example.

Aye I know, I just mean for the more complex fx chains like sidechaining and stuff, or using CV in's/out's on Thor.

What really makes it for me is the ability to load it on a USB flash drive and have it run off friends computers. Not my prefered DAW but damn it's easy to load up with some VST's, samples, and projects and head to a friends house or wherever.

hcstnfrd wrote:What really makes it for me is the ability to load it on a USB flash drive and have it run off friends computers. Not my prefered DAW but damn it's easy to load up with some VST's, samples, and projects and head to a friends house or wherever.

Aye, I didn't even thought about that yet, sounds awesome...

When I spent a saturday night at a mate (boring mofo's playing fifa all day) I can just nick his laptop and start rocking out on a USB stick!