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COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:24 pm
by BananaBomber
Yo does anyone here know what software these guys use ^^^ i am eager to know ??? :z:

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:36 pm
by marshy
Reason 4.0 rewired with FL Studio 9

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:42 pm
by DZA
Coki use to use reason aint sure what now

And does it really matter?

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:31 pm
by drokkr
DZA wrote:And does it really matter?

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:35 pm
by BananaBomber
drokkr wrote:
DZA wrote:And does it really matter?

Just interesting to know ;)

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:40 am
by wirez
DZA wrote:Coki use to use reason aint sure what now

And does it really matter?
Dude at the end of the day, everything DOES have a different sound to it... Whether it's in the digital or analogue world, if you read synth sound creation books they all say about how one synth with the same parameters as another will STILL sound different... They all have different circuitry, algorithms, valves, amps, scripts etc so they will produce a slightly different sound... I'm not calling you a dickhead like you don't know fuck all because I know you know this stuff... Just reminding you that if they use Reason synths and you want that sound, you'll never be able to get it exact from any other synth except the Reason one...

I think people state how it doesn't matter what you're using too often... Obviously it doesn't matter in terms of making a decently produced track, but if you're looking for a particular sound then it's essential you have the right tools?

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:22 am
by wayoftheworld
wirez wrote:
DZA wrote:Coki use to use reason aint sure what now

And does it really matter?
Dude at the end of the day, everything DOES have a different sound to it... Whether it's in the digital or analogue world, if you read synth sound creation books they all say about how one synth with the same parameters as another will STILL sound different... They all have different circuitry, algorithms, valves, amps, scripts etc so they will produce a slightly different sound... I'm not calling you a dickhead like you don't know fuck all because I know you know this stuff... Just reminding you that if they use Reason synths and you want that sound, you'll never be able to get it exact from any other synth except the Reason one...

I think people state how it doesn't matter what you're using too often... Obviously it doesn't matter in terms of making a decently produced track, but if you're looking for a particular sound then it's essential you have the right tools?
i could be wrong...but that difference in coding and algorithms is so slight that it's not really possible to discern any sonic difference, at least when dealing with daws. i could see your point about synthesizers tho, as each synth uses different waves and not to mention all the other factors you listed above ..but again, although you may not be able to 100% completely replicate a thor in theory via the same parameters on another synth, i think it probably would be possible with a good enough programmer to recreate it close enough (using whatever parameters necessary) so as to not really be able to distinguish any difference sonically.

but again, i could very well be wrong about this.

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:11 am
by ckzdub
wayoftheworld wrote:
wirez wrote:
DZA wrote:Coki use to use reason aint sure what now

And does it really matter?
Dude at the end of the day, everything DOES have a different sound to it... Whether it's in the digital or analogue world, if you read synth sound creation books they all say about how one synth with the same parameters as another will STILL sound different... They all have different circuitry, algorithms, valves, amps, scripts etc so they will produce a slightly different sound... I'm not calling you a dickhead like you don't know fuck all because I know you know this stuff... Just reminding you that if they use Reason synths and you want that sound, you'll never be able to get it exact from any other synth except the Reason one...

I think people state how it doesn't matter what you're using too often... Obviously it doesn't matter in terms of making a decently produced track, but if you're looking for a particular sound then it's essential you have the right tools?
i could be wrong...but that difference in coding and algorithms is so slight that it's not really possible to discern any sonic difference, at least when dealing with daws. i could see your point about synthesizers tho, as each synth uses different waves and not to mention all the other factors you listed above ..but again, although you may not be able to 100% completely replicate a thor in theory via the same parameters on another synth, i think it probably would be possible with a good enough programmer to recreate it close enough (using whatever parameters necessary) so as to not really be able to distinguish any difference sonically.

but again, i could very well be wrong about this.

good point i never thought of it this way..

makes me want to go buy every daw/synth :D

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:38 pm
by jsills
it shouldnt matter but i think cats want validation that they have the equipement that will allow them to sound as good as big name producer. lil ego boost ya know.

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:53 pm
by BananaBomber
jsills wrote:it shouldnt matter but i think cats want validation that they have the equipement that will allow them to sound as good as big name producer. lil ego boost ya know.
#
Well Said

i salute you :e:

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:59 pm
by h*product
ckzdub wrote:
wayoftheworld wrote:
wirez wrote:
DZA wrote:Coki use to use reason aint sure what now

And does it really matter?
Dude at the end of the day, everything DOES have a different sound to it... Whether it's in the digital or analogue world, if you read synth sound creation books they all say about how one synth with the same parameters as another will STILL sound different... They all have different circuitry, algorithms, valves, amps, scripts etc so they will produce a slightly different sound... I'm not calling you a dickhead like you don't know fuck all because I know you know this stuff... Just reminding you that if they use Reason synths and you want that sound, you'll never be able to get it exact from any other synth except the Reason one...

I think people state how it doesn't matter what you're using too often... Obviously it doesn't matter in terms of making a decently produced track, but if you're looking for a particular sound then it's essential you have the right tools?
i could be wrong...but that difference in coding and algorithms is so slight that it's not really possible to discern any sonic difference, at least when dealing with daws. i could see your point about synthesizers tho, as each synth uses different waves and not to mention all the other factors you listed above ..but again, although you may not be able to 100% completely replicate a thor in theory via the same parameters on another synth, i think it probably would be possible with a good enough programmer to recreate it close enough (using whatever parameters necessary) so as to not really be able to distinguish any difference sonically.

but again, i could very well be wrong about this.

good point i never thought of it this way..

makes me want to go buy every daw/synth :D
the algorithms do make a difference. the operation of digital summing in itself makes a big difference. whether one is 'better' than the other is completely negotiable. nothing can supplement for a well trained and experienced set of ears. if you've got a pro DAW (cubase, fruity, reaper etc) and a reasonably good set of speakers you can make release quality music. it just take time, practice makes perfect :)

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:59 pm
by h*product
ckzdub wrote:
wayoftheworld wrote:
wirez wrote:
DZA wrote:Coki use to use reason aint sure what now

And does it really matter?
Dude at the end of the day, everything DOES have a different sound to it... Whether it's in the digital or analogue world, if you read synth sound creation books they all say about how one synth with the same parameters as another will STILL sound different... They all have different circuitry, algorithms, valves, amps, scripts etc so they will produce a slightly different sound... I'm not calling you a dickhead like you don't know fuck all because I know you know this stuff... Just reminding you that if they use Reason synths and you want that sound, you'll never be able to get it exact from any other synth except the Reason one...

I think people state how it doesn't matter what you're using too often... Obviously it doesn't matter in terms of making a decently produced track, but if you're looking for a particular sound then it's essential you have the right tools?
i could be wrong...but that difference in coding and algorithms is so slight that it's not really possible to discern any sonic difference, at least when dealing with daws. i could see your point about synthesizers tho, as each synth uses different waves and not to mention all the other factors you listed above ..but again, although you may not be able to 100% completely replicate a thor in theory via the same parameters on another synth, i think it probably would be possible with a good enough programmer to recreate it close enough (using whatever parameters necessary) so as to not really be able to distinguish any difference sonically.

but again, i could very well be wrong about this.

good point i never thought of it this way..

makes me want to go buy every daw/synth :D
the algorithms do make a difference. the operation of digital summing in itself makes a big difference. whether one is 'better' than the other is completely negotiable. nothing can supplement for a well trained and experienced set of ears. if you've got a pro DAW (cubase, fruity, reaper etc) and a reasonably good set of speakers you can make release quality music. it just take time, practice makes perfect :)

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:12 pm
by wirez
wayoftheworld wrote:
wirez wrote:
DZA wrote:Coki use to use reason aint sure what now

And does it really matter?
Dude at the end of the day, everything DOES have a different sound to it... Whether it's in the digital or analogue world, if you read synth sound creation books they all say about how one synth with the same parameters as another will STILL sound different... They all have different circuitry, algorithms, valves, amps, scripts etc so they will produce a slightly different sound... I'm not calling you a dickhead like you don't know fuck all because I know you know this stuff... Just reminding you that if they use Reason synths and you want that sound, you'll never be able to get it exact from any other synth except the Reason one...

I think people state how it doesn't matter what you're using too often... Obviously it doesn't matter in terms of making a decently produced track, but if you're looking for a particular sound then it's essential you have the right tools?
i could be wrong...but that difference in coding and algorithms is so slight that it's not really possible to discern any sonic difference, at least when dealing with daws. i could see your point about synthesizers tho, as each synth uses different waves and not to mention all the other factors you listed above ..but again, although you may not be able to 100% completely replicate a thor in theory via the same parameters on another synth, i think it probably would be possible with a good enough programmer to recreate it close enough (using whatever parameters necessary) so as to not really be able to distinguish any difference sonically.

but again, i could very well be wrong about this.
I'm just quoting various articles/books I've read that have touched upon that matter... Obviously I'm not saying you can't recreate a sound similar to another synth at all, what I was saying was that synths DO have certain sounds to them... If you sit there and make a simple one oscillator wobble on massive then do exactly the same with exactly the same parameters on Albino, they sounds very different... By all means you can tweak either or to sound like the other using different parameters... But that doesn't exactly prove that each synth does the same thing... Another important factor I forgot to mention was the filters, it's these babies that define a sound so if you haven't got the synth with the right filter, the right sound is going to be a lot harder to accomplish...

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:15 pm
by wayoftheworld
wirez wrote:By all means you can tweak either or to sound like the other using different parameters... But that doesn't exactly prove that each synth does the same thing...
yeah, but i wasn't saying that each synth does the same thing. just that when you can more or less recreate the same sounds (almost), it shouldn't really get noobs on the path to thinking that they have to use one daw over another. obviously synths are going to sound different but when it comes to daws, i still think the difference in coding shouldn't be enough to color the sound enough to really tell. at least thats what they tell us... :wink:

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:55 pm
by module
there is a compression algorithm happening at the output of reason. i try not to use it anymore now.

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:33 am
by step correct
module wrote:there is a compression algorithm happening at the output of reason. i try not to use it anymore now.

explain plz?

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:10 am
by narcissus
i don't see why the "right" sound would have to be one that a famous artist already used... if you were trying to replicate bar 9's sound, you wouldn't sound good and original like bar 9... you'd sound like an amateur trying to copy bar 9. you're practically admitting that you have no originality or creativity.

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:22 pm
by clone-a-side
narcissus wrote:i don't see why the "right" sound would have to be one that a famous artist already used... if you were trying to replicate bar 9's sound, you wouldn't sound good and original like bar 9... you'd sound like an amateur trying to copy bar 9. you're practically admitting that you have no originality or creativity.
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Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:00 pm
by bokatordubstep
bullshit, maybe he just wants the thick, lush, pads & leads ect SIMILAR to Bar 9?

or whatever, maybe he likes one aspect of Coki's production in particular and wants to sound SIMILAR to that?

in all logical sense, he's asking about COKI and about BAR 9.......

idk about you, but they have way different styles in my opinion, so it's not like he's saying he wants to sound EXACTLY like either of them.

give the man a break :roll:

Re: COKI AND BAR 9 SOFTWARE???

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:55 pm
by BananaBomber
bokatordubstep wrote:bullshit, maybe he just wants the thick, lush, pads & leads ect SIMILAR to Bar 9?

or whatever, maybe he likes one aspect of Coki's production in particular and wants to sound SIMILAR to that?

in all logical sense, he's asking about COKI and about BAR 9.......

idk about you, but they have way different styles in my opinion, so it's not like he's saying he wants to sound EXACTLY like either of them.

give the man a break :roll:
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