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where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:19 am
by wayoftheworld
something i miss about older dubstep was all the space in a track. nowadays it seems like most producers are more interested in showing off their production wizardry and filling up all the space they can with little sounds. which is all well if you're that good of a producer, but damn its borderline wankery at times, like some hair metal dude shredding a guitar solo for 5 minutes.
nothing wrong with it if thats yr thing, but i could really use some more space, vibes, and dub.
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:40 am
by drokkr
I know what you mean, I'm all about space in my productions these past 2 or 3 months. Really enjoying where they're going too

Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:46 am
by abZ
Yep Nero and Chase and Status fucked it up for everyone. It's like slowed down clown step

I was digging this stuff at first but the wall of sound crap is getting to me. Would rather opt for some heavy darkness like Kryptic Minds, Headhunter, etc.
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:49 am
by jolly wailer
thats just not where the zeitgeist is at brah
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:55 am
by ketamine
So true.
I've only been in this since late 07, and its changed
so drastically since then. Never really got to enjoy the "sound" that drew me in, *barely* two years under my belt (last year) and was already looking backwards with nostalgia.
But... I mean come on. We're PRODUCERS. If we like a certain sound, we can just make it. Scene's still young enough to support another sub-genre. Pun intended.

Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:01 am
by drokkr
ketamine wrote:So true.
I've only been in this since late 07, and its changed
so drastically since then. Never really got to enjoy the "sound" that drew me in, *barely* two years under my belt (last year) and was already looking backwards with nostalgia.
But... I mean come on. We're PRODUCERS.
If we like a certain sound, we can just make it. Scene's still young enough to support another sub-genre. Pun intended.

This what I'm aiming for at the moment. Sorry to plug but if you've time have a look at my Soundcloud and one called "Melting Footprints". I think I'm getting back to that sound I love so much...
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:39 am
by abZ
ketamine wrote:So true.
I've only been in this since late 07, and its changed
so drastically since then. Never really got to enjoy the "sound" that drew me in, *barely* two years under my belt (last year) and was already looking backwards with nostalgia.
But... I mean come on. We're PRODUCERS. If we like a certain sound, we can just make it. Scene's still young enough to support another sub-genre. Pun intended.

Yep that is why I became a producer in the first place, to make shit that isn't available. Doesn't make sense to make filthy wobblers when they are a dime a dozen. No really challenge there either if you are good at following directions you can make a rusko spesh just by reading the stickies at the top of the forum. Gotta do better than that.
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:48 am
by drokkr
abZ wrote: No really challenge there either if you are good at following directions you can make a rusko spesh just by reading the stickies at the top of the forum. Gotta do better than that.

Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:12 am
by ketamine
drokkr wrote:one called "Melting Footprints". I think I'm getting back to that sound I love so much...
tune is beautiful man.

all your tunes sound like "true" dubstep. respect.
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:14 am
by grooki
I totally agree about the space thing. More space! I love it
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:28 am
by drokkr
ketamine wrote:drokkr wrote:one called "Melting Footprints". I think I'm getting back to that sound I love so much...
tune is beautiful man.

all your tunes sound like "true" dubstep. respect.
Thank you, that means a lot

Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:40 am
by therapist
You guys would love John Cage.
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:43 am
by legend4ry
Space, Pace and Bass.
my motto what I carry throughout all my tunes and have done since day 1 of producing dubstep (06)
Soundcloud
Is my latest attempt at doing something completely different while having space and pace with tuff bass.

Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:13 am
by tripaddict
do what you feel you should

Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:32 am
by notch
Yeah I needed more deep in my life and less clown...So I've started producing tech house and deep house..
I feel ya..

Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:40 am
by wayoftheworld
therapist wrote:You guys would love John Cage.
haha. i never believe anyone that tells me they listen to john cage.
the first time i heard dubstep was back in late 2005, from listening to dj rupture....then i discovered a set by mrk1, plastician, and slaughter mob, found the 'run the road' comps, and then a really raw and grimey mix by mac10 and sharkey major, i think it was. at that time there weren't very many people in the states listening to it, and its weird now since it is getting more popular that newcomers think it's just a cheap rock thrill, heavy metal sorta thing, and dont even have a clue about the spacier and dubbier sound of back in the day
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:42 am
by deadly_habit
it's still there, just have to dig harder as style of what's popular roller coaster is always going and changing
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:37 am
by JFK
drokkr wrote:ketamine wrote:drokkr wrote:one called "Melting Footprints". I think I'm getting back to that sound I love so much...
tune is beautiful man.

all your tunes sound like "true" dubstep. respect.
Thank you, that means a lot

Damn.... Drokkr I know we have had our differences but I have to admit that is one gorgeous track.
Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:44 am
by eops
Drokkrs on fire

Re: where has all the space gone?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:46 am
by calicolea
For sure! I've been really enjoying more thick atmosphere and less concentrated abrasivity... This one f/e.
Soundcloud