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hi guys, new to the forum in case you wondered.

i've been messing around on FL 9 for a while now, and have recently got acid pro 7 and ableton live 8. i know i'll just get told to use whatever i prefer, but what would you use personally for dubstep creation?

i've only just started producing, only been mixing for the last few years.

any tips/opinions would be nice

cheers

go with ableton

Personally i use ableton and reason..but you have the same capabilities with those...exactly like you said, use what your prefer or feel comfortable with. its not what you have its what you make with what you have.

This is where you start:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/the-dubstep ... 14797.html

Edit:
I use FL Studio, and I love it...
It's all down to personal preference

gonna go with a classic cliche quote, but its not the software that makes good music
its you!

go with whatevers comfortable, i get the piss ripped out of me for using FL studio,
in an ideal world, i'd use Cubase and have my own home studio, but im broke as fuck
so im using what i can!

seriously, whatever you feel most comfortable with, use that, fuck everyone else haha

ive just never got comfortable with FL, cant get anything to sound how i want. as for ableton, i have absolutely no idea how to use it, and i cant find any noob friendly tutorials. pretty much the same story with acid, though im loving the freedom on acid

you probably just need to have a play with a few different daws, trial and error!
try making like stupid 32 bar loop, but try making it in a few different daws
see which one sounds the best/or was the easiest to make?

that's what id do
hope you find your weapon of choice dude!

smokestack wrote:ive just never got comfortable with FL, cant get anything to sound how i want. as for ableton, i have absolutely no idea how to use it, and i cant find any noob friendly tutorials. pretty much the same story with acid, though im loving the freedom on acid

with ableton there are built in tutorials and lessons that are very noob friendly. and there's plenty of beginner tutorials on youtube.

doing the built in lessons and reading the manual are a good place to start.

smokestack wrote:hi guys, new to the forum in case you wondered.

i've been messing around on FL 9 for a while now, and have recently got acid pro 7 and ableton live 8. i know i'll just get told to use whatever i prefer, but what would you use personally for dubstep creation?

i've only just started producing, only been mixing for the last few years.

any tips/opinions would be nice

cheers

the truth of the matter is, a DAW is a DAW... it does what it does. reason does what reason does. FL does what FL does. live does what live does. they're all basically same variants on the same thing. in the end it doesn't matter which. i know that's not what you asked, but it's the answer you're looking for.

as for what you DID ask, i prefer live...

it provides a clear way to look at things, and the ability to change that perspective easily. all the devices knobs correspond, in a way, to hardware (though differently so than in reason)... so their purposes are clear, but it also gives you ridiculous control over them so you can make it do things that the hardware it emulates could only dream of... in other words, live simply makes sense to me. it allows me to do whatever i want. but that's every DAW really... cue beginning of post

smokestack wrote:cant get anything to sound how i want.

A different DAW wont fix that.

I use PRIMARILY FL, mostly because I like the way everything organizes itself, and because it is more resemblant of how hardware chains would work then like, say, ableton (and I hated how ableton had a brand name for verything, couldnt just call things what they were)

But, I also have Renoize, Im kinda nerdy, and I like specific value inputs more for alot of purposes... That, and I run open source OS's, n this time 6 months ago there was no WINE support for FL...

Whoever told you too do the same project on different daws until you make a descisiion, hit the nail right on the, head.

But a daw wont change your sound.

N while were on te subject, bear in mind they all do the same thing, sequence sounds and provide a mix surface... so the only reason jackass knock FL is because thier too dumb to use it right, or because it has Fruity in the name and thier dumb homophobes.

basicanarchy101 wrote:

smokestack wrote:cant get anything to sound how i want.

(and I hated how ableton had a brand name for verything, couldnt just call things what they were)

hahah! that's the exact same way i feel about FL and reason.. and it's only because as you say, some people are too dumb to make anything good with FL, i never made a good tune with it the whole two years or so i used it!
ableton gets me feelin groovy however..

definitely agreeing with the gist of your post, just trying to demonstrate the multi-sidedness of the issue

narcissus wrote:

basicanarchy101 wrote:

smokestack wrote:cant get anything to sound how i want.

(and I hated how ableton had a brand name for verything, couldnt just call things what they were)

hahah! that's the exact same way i feel about FL and reason.. and it's only because as you say, some people are too dumb to make anything good with FL, i never made a good tune with it the whole two years or so i used it!
ableton gets me feelin groovy however..

definitely agreeing with the gist of your post, just trying to demonstrate the multi-sidedness of the issue

i wouldnt say too dumb, id just say lack the knowledge of the depth of FL, such as me

in other words, live simply makes sense to me.

^ This a million times over, I tired using FL and Reason when I started out but they just didn't make sense to me and I mostly hated the interface of those programs. Finally I got a cracked copy of Live; naughty I know but I don't have much cash and I want to see if I can carry on producing and getting good to a point before I spend nearly £400 for the full suite.

smokestack wrote:

narcissus wrote:

basicanarchy101 wrote:

smokestack wrote:cant get anything to sound how i want.

(and I hated how ableton had a brand name for verything, couldnt just call things what they were)

hahah! that's the exact same way i feel about FL and reason.. and it's only because as you say, some people are too dumb to make anything good with FL, i never made a good tune with it the whole two years or so i used it!
ableton gets me feelin groovy however..

definitely agreeing with the gist of your post, just trying to demonstrate the multi-sidedness of the issue

i wouldnt say too dumb, id just say lack the knowledge of the depth of FL, such as me

right... all right this isn't going to make any sense, but follow me.. after two years of FL, i still didn't make anything that cool with it.. that's long enough to know when something's just not DOING anything for you, emotionally. so i went back to playing more guitar, piano and singing, mainly pop/alt/rock.. which is what i was doing before i found out about FL.. then when i had developed that sound and wanted to record the music i was making, i got a decent mic and so needed a decent soundcard.. and with it came a bunch of bundled audio demos, two of which were Rebirth 2.0 and Ableton Live v. 2 or 3 i think... i fell in love instantly with the way rebirth worked, looked, sounded... it was just so cool.. i'd never known electronic music had the kind of feeling i was hearing.. so that much discovered, i thought i'd take a look at the other demo, that program called.. "live," was it? and it boggled my mind.. it could stretch audio and transpose it before i even knew that was POSSIBLE, and you could trigger loops and stop them so naturally that it was like performing, almost like playing a guitar. and what's more, you could link it up with rebirth which was SIIICKK...
and that was my introduction to live. and that's why i like it, because i have that same feeling of excitement every time i open it up. sure, i learned things after that, like how i eventually realized that it was easier to use the synths inside live instead of rewiring.. but the reason i keep coming back is because it struck me.
sorry for the rant.. thanks for listening.. guess i just felt like typing... but i guess the point i'm making is that if no DAW strikes you, then do something else for a while until it does.

smokestack wrote:i've been messing around on FL 9 for a while now, and have recently got acid pro 7 and ableton live 8. i know i'll just get told to use whatever i prefer, but what would you use personally for dubstep creation?

Neither. Use Cubase

Welcome to the forum.

FRUIT LOOPS all day i dont wanna hear nothing else

tripwire22 wrote:FROOT LOOPS all day i dont wanna hear nothing else

Cinnamon Toast Crunch is superior

Been using Acid Pro since ver 3 love it, and I also have Reason 4 & Ableton 8 , & just Rewire them into Acid along with others soft synths.. But I mainly use Abelton 8 for performing.. the DAWs you have are all very capable of any type of music. Just find which one you prefer, and roll with, and master it..

collige wrote:

tripwire22 wrote:FROOT LOOPS all day i dont wanna hear nothing else

Cinnamon Toast Crunch is superior

lmafao i did say fruit loops too. your right though toast crunch kills all cereal

I used cubase at college about 3 years ago and just recorded audio into it. Might crack it and see how i get on with it, naughty me