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Ok first off im still new at this, ive been producing a few months now, just started djing with ableton, using a mpd24. still not exactly sure how to warp tracks im not really grasping the idea of it too well. any tips on that would be appreciated. second off, just wondering if any of you guys have some albino presets out there youd be willing to share with me, ive been usuing albino for the most part, not real great at making my own sounds yet with it, and third off, just wondering what are some good producers to check out as far as the not so hard dirty bass stuff. looking for the more glitchy kinda stuff not so dirty wobble style that would be real good to play out and have people dance too. thanks!

nosssweat wrote:Ok first off im still new at this, ive been producing a few months now, just started djing with ableton, using a mpd24. still not exactly sure how to warp tracks im not really grasping the idea of it too well. any tips on that would be appreciated. second off, just wondering if any of you guys have some albino presets out there youd be willing to share with me, ive been usuing albino for the most part, not real great at making my own sounds yet with it, and third off, just wondering what are some good producers to check out as far as the not so hard dirty bass stuff. looking for the more glitchy kinda stuff not so dirty wobble style that would be real good to play out and have people dance too. thanks!

noisia have some pres that come with albino that are a great starting point
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nosssweat wrote:Ok first off im still new at this, ive been producing a few months now, just started djing with ableton, using a mpd24. still not exactly sure how to warp tracks im not really grasping the idea of it too well. any tips on that would be appreciated. second off, just wondering if any of you guys have some albino presets out there youd be willing to share with me, ive been usuing albino for the most part, not real great at making my own sounds yet with it, and third off, just wondering what are some good producers to check out as far as the not so hard dirty bass stuff. looking for the more glitchy kinda stuff not so dirty wobble style that would be real good to play out and have people dance too. thanks!

m no Ableton Dj, but warping would sound to me like piling in effects and loops + pitch shifts n timestretches n all that good shit thats impossible on a traditional set of decks. GET CREATIVE.. and do things we cant, or Im gonna send the Spanish inquisition over thier.

If your using it for track to track mixing your already officially a douchebag, not a DJ. Just go nuts with the effects and loop/synth capablilities, see, see?

well im all doing now is going from track to track but ive only been doing thins maybe 2 weeks now. im still learning. im still trying to learn all the good stuff and the ways to do it. still trying to figure out good effects to use and things like that. thanks for those warping intructions im going to work on that. any other suggestions to a newbie doin this stuff? thanks for the replies.

don't sweat it, go at your own pace. what exactly do you need help with in terms of warping? you just open up your clip and hit the "warp" button. then double click to add or remove markers.. you can drag 'em around to select tempo.

dont get stuck n ableton track2track... Thats what us old-school stylahs are for...

Now, six songs, 24 loop points, 6 effects racks, and bpm pitch shift beatmatching on all of em, playing at once.

Then your doin something we cant.

narcissus wrote:don't sweat it, go at your own pace. what exactly do you need help with in terms of warping? you just open up your clip and hit the "warp" button. then double click to add or remove markers.. you can drag 'em around to select tempo.

It depends what version of Ableton you're using really... Ableton 8 makes things so much easier because instead of warping the markers to the track, you do it the other way around.

But yeah mate, I use Ableton and an APC40 to DJ with, I've been working acapellas into my mixes, synth parts and extra beats and such, it's really nice once you get the hang of it (have a listen to some of my mixes on my soundcloud mebbeh? it'll give you an idea of the kinda thing you can do with it). I found warping takes practice my friend, you tend to get better and better at judging where the transients (starts of the bar, big hits etc...) in the tracks are and working with the little track tempo read-out to see whether the marker you're editing is sitting at an acceptable tempo in relation to the track

Hope this helps,


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Short of answering your questions, I'm going to give you the best advice that anyone will give you in this thread.

When you don't know how to do something, you should search in the manual for some of the key words of the thing that you're having trouble with. Pdf's are your friend. After that, you may still be confused. German manuals do little for me.

The next thing to do is to search either google or youtube for the keywords of the thing that you're having trouble with. If it's related to live, you'll find quite a few answers. Just make sure that the answers pertain to the version of live that you are using, because things change over there.

Side note, I think warping became more difficult in 8, having only retrospectively worked with 7.

And just to address you generally, you sound like a total newb. If you have no experience with music making software, this shit is going to be really hard for a long time. There is a tun of shit that you don't even know that you don't know. There is a lot to learn. After a few years, you will develop a profound respect for people that do this well, as it is really difficult to be a good producer.

But keep at it, it's a great challenge, just keep in mind that it pays about as well as hard drinking.

nowaysj wrote:Side note, I think warping became more difficult in 8, having only retrospectively worked with 7.

I initially thought this, but it's so much easier to work with once you get the hang of doing it the other way round. It's nice cause Live puts in hitpoints for the transients automatically (I mean you can obvs do it yourself too, it's not 100% accurate as always) so you don't have to worry


Dub Fiend

nowaysj wrote: And just to address you generally, you sound like a total newb. If you have no experience with music making software, this shit is going to be really hard for a long time. There is a tun of shit that you don't even know that you don't know. There is a lot to learn. After a few years, you will develop a profound respect for people that do this well, as it is really difficult to be a good producer or dj.

But keep at it, it's a great challenge, just keep in mind that it pays about as well as hard drinking.

This + fixd

heh thanks guys i appreciate it. yeah im just having trouble figuring out really where to put the warp marker but that is gonna take awhile. im usuing ableton 7 though btw. so another question what are some good effects to use, i already use beat repeat and auto filter just wondering what some other good ones might be.

I'd stop trying to make music for the time being, and just start doing tutorials to figure out what all the fx are and do, how to work with the mixer and automation and all the rest. I think sonic academy has live tutorials for making music within genres. I've never actually seen one, and trust me, it's not going to give you any artistic insight, but you will begin to learn the mechanics necessary to make your own type of tracks.

Respect production knowledge bro, it's large.