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I'm sure something along these lines has been posted before but I couldnt find it.

Basically, been getting into splitting the freq's of some of the synths i've been using recently, but so far i've had to clone whatever channel i'm using, then route it to separate mixer tracks, this is caning my CPU, so i'm often forced to resample, and I hate doing that for number of reason, leaves you less freedom with what you want to do to the patch and its harder to ad variations of it later on in the track.

But last night it clicked that you can do the whole right click and "route to this channel only" thing, as you would if you were using send channels, but you can do it to more than one channel, then process each one as you would normally would. Like, low cut one and ditort an reverb, then high cut the other and compress or whatever.

Just made my life alot eaiser, probably a well known fact tho, but I hope it helps someone!



As you can see, got my main synth routed to channel 10, this is in turn routed to 11 and 12, each processed differently

I do the same thing and eq out the frequencies i don't want to effect. But I'll point out that its even more helpful at least to me to split it into three parts. Low mid and high, and then route them all but together on a bus channel instead of each one going straight to the master channel. This way you can control you bass with one fader if you have to change anything or add any other effects to it like compression and so on.

So Massive input on 10, low end on 11, mid on 12, highs on 13 and massive output bus on 14.

Yeah dude, forward a channel away from the master too 3 new slots, then forward those 3 away from the master and into a final 4th slot.

Multilayer dstortions...

Take 4, route out in same fshion, split frequencies, then route each FREQUENCY in the same fashion, and then multilayer more effects.

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I had no idea about this.

How do you do it? Just right click and dropdown menu appears or something?

Select the channel you wish to forward, then just click the arrowish thing above the FX sign on the channel you wish to forward to, you can then adjust the amount thats sent etc...

antics wrote:Select the channel you wish to forward, then just click the arrowish thing above the FX sign on the channel you wish to forward to, you can then adjust the amount thats sent etc...

Thanks.

Be sure you delink the route too master though...

This always gets me when it hits people like a ton of bricks that slot routing is how its supposed to be done, lol... Some people just must not understand that FLs very resemblant to hardware.

Nice image though dude, that should end the posts about this once n for all... least for FL...

Seriously though, there isnt much outside of drums I dont mix-layer lke this... it doesnt nessarily have to be split eq either, you can drop volumes to balance, it shouldnt phase if you keep levels straight... From thier you add your effects... whatever they may be...

Use a few delays and reverbs too add atmosphere to synths or enhance or modify the sound of an atmo pad.

Use 6 or seven seperate bitcrushers and send a sine bass through it. Filter. Instant vocal yoy wow mids.

Use 6 or seven waveshapers, send em all back to one, sidechain with a slice of the transformers transforming sample that goes around, and your now Datsik.

Vocal sample > Route too 2 tracks then back to final 3rd, leave one dry and put a bitcrusher with a bit of downsample, then some dealy, then some reverb. Twiddle thier wet dry knobs (The ones next too where you pick an effect for those who dont speak intelligent)... cut the volume on the effected one down till it sits straight.

Mmmm... n put compressors on the channels you route chains back to... So if you send track one to 2, 3, and 4, be sure to delink all of them from the master channel, and send 2,3,4, into 5. that way thier back to being one track and one sound (hence the compressor)... n you can edison the whole result for resample n audio lane-ing and razorblade treatment this way...
which is very nice.

Or you can just click on the little arrow thing on the mixer above where it says fx and it turns the knob on for that channel.

Yeah, all hunkydory but there is one huge fatal flaw in all this - each effect on each different channel will introduce varying degrees of latency which fl doesn't compensate for (unlike other [real] daws). As you work with audio like this, it will turn to mush as the phase gets all fucked up, you may get loud loud peaks, or quiet spots for apparently no reason.

Not true.
Taken from FL's help file. Each mixer channel has this.

Plugin Delay Compensation - PDC
PDC is required when Effects plugins introduce processing delays between their input and output sound OR Instrument plugins are slow to respond to note input.

Delay Pre/Post - Left-click this switch to change between pre delay (used for instruments/generators) and post delay (used for effects). The Pre setting delays the audio prior to entering a Mixer Track, Post delays the audio leaving a Mixer Track.
Delay entry menu (showing 'none' in the example at C, above) - This is the delay control menu, there are several units in which delays may be entered, left-click to select from:
Reset - Resets the PDC to 'none', the default 'no delay' condition.
Set in ms (milliseconds) - Set the PDC in ms, a value entry box will appear after selecting this setting.
Set in samples - Set the PDC in samples, a value entry box will appear after selecting this setting.
Set in beats - Set the PDC in beats, a value entry box will appear after selecting this setting.
Set from - This will list Mixer Tracks that have latency caused by plugins. Select a track to automatically adapt the current PDC value to the selected track without the need to manually enter values.

The math required to do that ^ for 30 channels is ridiculous. Remember, when you add an effect to a channel, you have to delay every other channel by that amount. Once you start bussing, get real. You are going to need at least a spread sheet to accurately track and adjust your latency accross all of the channels.

All other daws (except pt le) do this tedious math for you (as they should, it's math, its the only damn thing a computer is good at anyway).

but it can be done and lets face it. Music is nothing more then math so do you want your computer to write it for you?

Nice work. I remember reading bout this a while ago but didnt really take much notice. I have been exporting loads and it is a little limiting so this should help me out right now.

When doing this,when you try to give channel 10 (in the picture) its own space set apart from 11 and 12(lets say EQ it 200 hz to 500 hz or w/e) then channel 11 and 12 also run through this so they will now only play 200-500. does anyone get what im saying? how do i get aroud this?

In the latest fruity update this was added, its been available for a while as a 'set by yourself' feature, which would be complicated as faaack, but I'm fairly certain they have now added it as automated, as there was a thread a while back praising it, and denouncing that fruity is inferior. Also I swear doing all the sends in reason with wires would be hellish :S

FL Studio 9.5 beta incorporates a number of enhancements and new features based on ongoing development and customer input. These include:

Notable changes & improvements:

* Larger mixer view & waveform metering - The Mixer View options include 'Wide tracks' and 'Waveforms'.
* Individually sizable Playlist tracks - Any or all Playlist tracks can now be resized by dragging on the divider between the name areas. Individual tracks can also be locked at a desired size.
* Live Playlist marker types - Playlist markers can be set to Loop, Pause or Skip for innovative live performances.
* 64 bit plugin support - The Wrapper now automatically detects 64 bit plugins and opens them in 64 Bit 'Bridged' mode.
* Improved memory management - Two changes have been made to lower demands on FL Studio's memory allocation.
o 64 Bit & 32 Bit VST plugins can be opened in 'Bridged' mode that runs the plugin and its memory allocation in a separate process.
o Audio Clips & Sampler Channels Keep on disk option now opens the sample in a separate memory allocation.
* Improved audio options - ASIO: 'Mix in bufferswitch' and 'Triple buffer' may improve performance with some ASIO drivers. ASIO/DirectSound: Revised 'Playback tracking' options to help with alignment of visual feedback with audio where problems exist.
* Fully automatic PDC - The default for new projects, automatic Plugin Delay Compensation updates the PDC settings when changes are detected.
* Piano roll transport control - Editing in the Piano roll while in Song mode will now move the Playlist transport in sync with the Piano roll.
* Piano roll - Rounded notes view.
* Ctrl+B - Duplicate selection, zoom range or all (no selection) in the Playlist and Piano roll.