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Hey all! i've been thinking about upgrading my setup with some live equipment. Im currently using a macbookpro with an external soundcard + monitors and Korg R3 synth. Never been into records ( i dont own any... yet anyway ) so i kinda like the idea of dj controllers, since i've played with serato few times live.
SO!! I really love my synth and would love to play it live while changing tunes with a controller . Is it possible to MIDI sync a synth to a dj controller? then i could like start a tune with the controller and put some nasty arp's or whatever on top of it and play with the sound and controller to make some nice stuff! OH and is it possible to put the synth signal trough the controller or would i also need another mixer for combining the two?

So, I use a Numark CDMIX 2 for basic mixing, okay?
Then I send the master output of the CDMIX to a track in my DAW mixer, through an input on my soundcard.
Then I put effects on that channel to twist the mix, and ideally this will soon be assigned to a korgn nano kontrol.
Then i can load up any loops, samples, synths, whatever on my daw, play with em n shit, just use the play button to start step sequencer loops n consider it an infinite drum machine...
Now route shit where it needs to be on the mixer tracks the CDJs arent on...

Put the CDMIX in front of the laptop n the nano in front of that.

Harmony between old school n new, production n mixing, n limitless possibilities to explore the sonice universe... And not reatarded daw tracking that takes a year to mix a half hours worth of material...

Oh... n altogether, wont cost more then 400. n thats counting a DAW. 5 if you aint got a PC, which obviously, you do.

Oh, I forgot, sorry for double post, but, the flip side, some people would send the DAW to the AUX channel on the CDMIX... n work that wayt... but the other ways way better.

I guess that didnt help me much. My ideal setup would be me triggering tunes with something like Traktor, where i have already my prosessed tunes, and having my synth for some sounds to be played live as im changing tunes with something like numark omni controller. The big queastion is that can i send MIDI clock from the dj controller to my synth due the ability to recognise the bpm anyway? All this for _playing live_ and coming up with my own mixes... I've been thinking that it is a little pointless to produce tunes if you dont have any way to also perform. I dont need a nanokontrol, cause i dont want to be using a bloody DAW live. For live effects ill be using some hardware. im kinda new with livesetups for electronic music since i've never gigged. It's been all about playing bass in a reggaeband What gear do ppl who play dubstep use in clubs then? am i missing something essential with laptop+dj kontroller?

But dude, Thats exactly what I told you how to do... how is traktor any different then CDJs with effects on the master? And if you save the processing power that would have been needed for the act of actually PLAYING the tracks, why not have your whole DAW at your idsposal instead of just one synth? You can use a midi controller to play your synth, and you can mix tunes under it wth the control and accuracy of hardware... isnt that what you wanted?

N the nano isnt too produce with dude, its to control your pc better then the mouse can while you mix.

YEah ok i get the point of using midi controller like the nanopad to control the amount of effects etc in logic after youve done the settings on what does whatever. But how the hell can you go from tune to another live with a daw? Its like... sorry i have to load this next song now... go get something to drink while im at it.. wouldnt that be just easyer to have the songs on a djeying device? I thought that ppl only use DAW's for producing. And why would i want to play a hardware synth with a controller? i mean the knobs are all there. i can play with filters and effects and all of that stuff. Im trying to get as far as i can from the computer screen when im producing, i want to have a ready as possible sound straight from the synth and just record it without any processing afterwards.

ITS ALL SO CONFUSING

ok so what i get from what he is saying is use your mixer in your d a w as a mixer for it with o channel dedicated to traktor with effects on that dedicated channel control traktor how ever you want think of it as recording data into your daw from traktor and your synth is sending data to your daw so you can then process it further the bonus being that you now also have all your samples and vst vsti

oh yeah now i got it, i should route the audio from traktor to daw trough my soundcard and then fuck with the sound with some effects applied with yet another controller. This just somehow doesnt make any sense to me. i rather buy some hardware effects for playing live if i cant do it all with my synth and the dj controller.

Oh yea so i just should make one live template to logic and use its mixer to have my Korgs sound and the audio coming from traktor->dj controller mixed together. After that the daw gives me possibilities to do stuff to each two channels like fx's. And i also could use the daw to trigger samples by having like the samples on a Ultrabeat track and just play them with the synth/launchpad aswell. I also could record the whole thing as im doing it on the daw itself mindblowing!!

What you should do is purchase ableton live.
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So you want to play your own music to people live. Using Traktor? I don't get it.

Like Nowaysj said, Ableton. All you need right there.

I produce in FL9 and do all my gigs via Ableton and at the moment I'm using a PCR 300 midi keyboard to control everything.

Im saying you use a set of CDJs to mix, and then send the mix to your daw afterwords to treat it, n then sionce your processing the effects on the mix in the DAW, you can still use its synth n loop functions, get it?

Re-read my post once or twice dude, I think you missed some bits of the setup.

Okay, think of it this way... Thier is a set of CDJs plugged with thier mixers output plugged into the In on my soundcard. I then route that iinput too a track in my DAWs mixer, where the CDJ signal can then be given the DAW effects treatment. From thier, I use the DAW and laptop to load up synths n stuff as I work on the CDJs. The nano serves to control the effects, and also control a copy of traktor, which is sent to mixer slot 2, next to the CDJs, for an extra 2 track players. Get it? You have a set of CDJs, a copy of traktor, all your synths n loops, n then your DAWs mixer + the nano to twist em with effects.

Just getting to know ableton better, so maybe i dont need to be djeying to perform live? i just need some controller type of thing along my korg r 3, maybe something with pads and knobs to trigger stuff.. dont really need another set of keys. Thank you for your patience

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how depressing^^ just when i decided to get off midikeyboards after few years of not getting anything done. I try to make as much as possible with hardware synths these days and it's been working for me. All i need right now is stuff to make the magic happen live so i came across with the akai apc 40. Would you recommend that? i mean the lounchpad doesnt have assignable knobs and faders. And i guess it would give me more possibilities to do creative stuff with my own productions than getting into djaying the same files found on myspace.

mandis wrote:how depressing^^

Hey, you asked for keyboards. That's not even my setup, but I've used that in the past and it did everything you asked in your 1st post.


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Is what I use now. Launchpad triggers clips and gets girls to go "ohhh, ahhh", and the nano controls 3-band, gain, filters, beat repeats, tempo nudges, and arms/disarms. Thing is a tank.

Thank you for making this clear to me. i downloaded the trial version of ableton live and started learning the program. Maybe i'll buy it next month with the apc 40. I seem to have lots and lots to learn about the program and its capabilities.