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controlling wobble!
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:15 pm
by belaj
ello!
I have read few topics concerning controlling/automating wobble in vst synths, and metod with assigning rate to knob/slider works pretty good for me,
But! I wonder is there a metod to assign on which division you want lfo rate to jump exactly. I mean, for example in albino,
If I have LFO with rate of 1/8 and want to get to, lets say 1/32 I have to go through everything in between. Or maybe its possible to assign some rates to buttons?I intend to use this method with live band,so I'm trying to find easyest and most accurate way...
cheers
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:21 pm
by Astral
I don't know how it works with your DAW, but in FL for example. if you change the set rate (1/8 1/16 etc etc) and then go to Tools > Last Tweak, you can set the precise parameters with either event controls or automation.
Im not sure how or even if this translates to your daw, but if it has that kind of capability, it should work.
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:21 pm
by kejk
Don't sync it, so it won't "jump". Requires some skill to do it good.
You could also assign different speeds to velocity or pitch.
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:30 pm
by eops
Dont use albino but most synths have a sync option ...
you could also draw in the modulation in the arrangement
EDIT - I think I misread the question

Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:17 pm
by belaj
Thanks for ideas!Hmmm, not sure, I use cubase, I'll give it a try in midi/controller options, I'm not too familiar with FL.
Btw, How do you assign "different speeds to velocity or pitch"in albino?
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:24 pm
by kejk
belaj wrote:Thanks for ideas!Hmmm, not sure, I use cubase, I'll give it a try in midi/controller options, I'm not too familiar with FL.
Btw, How do you assign "different speeds to velocity or pitch"in albino?
In the mod matrix, use velocity/pitch as source and LFO rate as destination.
some synths also have a keyboard tracking knob on the LFO. This is basicly links pitch to lfo speed as well.
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:32 pm
by phrex
record the wobble at a sync of 1/8, then record the sync for x/y.
that way, you got to different samples you just can stick together. i'd ddo it like that at least...
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:48 pm
by yamaz
I've always had the same problem. It would be ideal if I could set up three midi buttons, not a knob, to exact rates like say 1/2 3/8 and 1/16. So instead of turning a knob to span thru the rates including ones you dont wannt...I could snap from 1/2 to 1/16th then to 3/8...seamlessly
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:04 am
by belaj
yamaz wrote:I've always had the same problem. It would be ideal if I could set up three midi buttons, not a knob, to exact rates like say 1/2 3/8 and 1/16. So instead of turning a knob to span thru the rates including ones you dont wannt...I could snap from 1/2 to 1/16th then to 3/8...seamlessly
yes, that's exacrly what I had in mind! but I suppose it's not possible

Maybe if synth would have buttons for it, and not drop down menu with rates..
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:05 am
by kejk
belaj wrote:yamaz wrote:I've always had the same problem. It would be ideal if I could set up three midi buttons, not a knob, to exact rates like say 1/2 3/8 and 1/16. So instead of turning a knob to span thru the rates including ones you dont wannt...I could snap from 1/2 to 1/16th then to 3/8...seamlessly
yes, that's exacrly what I had in mind! but I suppose it's not possible

Maybe if synth would have buttons for it, and not drop down menu with rates..
It is possible.
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:12 am
by Echoi
kejk wrote:Don't sync it, so it won't "jump". Requires some skill to do it good.
You could also assign different speeds to velocity or pitch.
this
much better to have sync switched off
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:24 am
by HighBot
In Ableton, I know you can create an automation or link to controller for the rate knob.. But you can also limit from what range does that clip effect. So you can limit it for example to only switch between 1/4 and 1/8 time, youll still have all the in between speeds but it will cut all the super fast and super slow wobs. Im not sure if this is possible in FL
though.
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:56 am
by belaj
Echoi wrote:kejk wrote:Don't sync it, so it won't "jump". Requires some skill to do it good.
You could also assign different speeds to velocity or pitch.
this
much better to have sync switched off
yes, that definitely requires some skills, I used to use rate knob on my nord lead that way, but it was veryy hard to stay in sync when getting back from fast to slow rate. you say this thing this thing with buttons assigned to exact rate is possible afterall?
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:09 am
by subminimal
I use the automation in cubase for this, I´ll have the LFO synced, and I can draw in the automation curves too hit the desired tempo sync rate.
Re: controlling wobble!
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:25 pm
by yamaz
I know you can change rate range in ableton but this does not allow skipping rates. Seems like using automation or velocity curves are best way to do it in a non live performance setting. Oerhaps there is a special synth or Vst plug filter that has individually remote mappable lfo rate buttons...that would sorta suffice.