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what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:40 am
by compact71
c,d,d#,f,f#,g,a
many thanks in advance...
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Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:20 am
by HangManDubstep
im going to say D because it has 2 sharps
could be wrong but hey we shall see
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:52 am
by k00sh
I don't think its D,
D would be F# and C# i think, maybe I'm wrong too
It's a weird key though, i can't say i have seen many keys that are written like that
rather than
C D Eb F F# G A (if ya get me)
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:53 am
by wirez
The example you gave consists of these intervals - tone, semitone, tone, semitone, semitone, tone. To find the scale you're looking for you will need to start at a certain point of that list of intervals until you find one that matches a western scale. For example, what you wrote could also be seen as d,Eb,f,f#,g,a,c which would be semitone, tone, semitone, semitone, tone, tone. I don't actually think the selection of notes you wrote comply to any Western scale though.
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:57 am
by k00sh
wirez wrote:The example you gave consists of these intervals - tone, semitone, tone, semitone, semitone, tone. To find the scale you're looking for you will need to start at a certain point of that list of intervals until you find one that matches a western scale. For example, what you wrote could also be seen as d,Eb,f,f#,g,a,c which would be semitone, tone, semitone, semitone, tone, tone. I don't actually think the selection of notes you wrote comply to any Western scale though.
init wirez, thats what i was tryin to say but couldnt think how
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:35 pm
by compact71
C D Eb F F# G A
i just wrote down the notes i have used..so maybe..i will search a little and post later...
meanwhile you can listen to these NOTES on soundcloud in my sig [work in progress]..hope U enjoy!
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Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:03 pm
by k00sh
Could I ask Compact, is this something you've wrote yourself??
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:04 pm
by compact71
yes..i composed iT.
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:11 pm
by k00sh
ahh i see, well in that case, it may not have a common key, ive had that a few times, it still sounds good but couldnt find a key for it!
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:59 pm
by ahier
its vaguely based in C minor, but with some unusual added notes, the major 6th (a) and diminished 5th/augmented 4th (f# /Gb), the closest thing youd get to something like that in music theory is a variation on a bluesy Cminor scale.
(i think, i worked it all out in my head instead of with a keyboard in front of me so i could be wrong)
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:59 pm
by wirez
ahier wrote:its vaguely based in C minor, but with some unusual added notes, the major 6th (a) and diminished 5th/augmented 4th (f# /Gb), the closest thing youd get to something like that in music theory is a variation on a bluesy Cminor scale.
(i think, i worked it all out in my head instead of with a keyboard in front of me so i could be wrong)
Yeh I was thinking Harmonic or Melodic minor but I'm not able to look yet and unfortunately I don't know anything other than natural minor/major off my head
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:25 pm
by Sharmaji
if it continues on up with B and C, it's C minor w/ a diminished 5th.
call the accidentals Eb and Gb and bob's your uncle.
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:51 pm
by wirez
Sharmaji wrote:if it continues on up with B and C, it's C minor w/ a diminished 5th.
call the accidentals Eb and Gb and bob's your uncle.
but how did you work this out lol. Please share your music theory secreeeeeets!
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:59 pm
by narcissus
closest thing is the C blues scale, but that would have a Bb instead of an A natural, and the 2nd is usually not included... though this scale would also work well for blues.. it doesn't correspond to anything in western music though i'm pretty sure, having 2 half steps in a row is pretty uncommon. but hell, give it a name and it might catch on, you never know.
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:45 pm
by wirez
narcissus wrote: but hell, give it a name and it might catch on, you never know.
Lol music theory sub genreing.
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:53 pm
by watts
g minor?
G A Bb C D Eb F[f# for leading tone] ? Just a guess.
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:45 pm
by poisson disturbance
Sounds like a 6-5 progression in G harmonic minor (G natural minor with a major 7). The 6 chord is Eb maj (Eb G Bb) and 5 chord is D maj (D F# A)
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:46 pm
by narcissus
wirez wrote:narcissus wrote: but hell, give it a name and it might catch on, you never know.
Lol music theory sub genreing.
sure! how do you think all the other scales got their names? someone just made them up and named them. then a lot of people liked it to and started playing it, and bam, now everyone who learns theory knows what mixolydian, harmonic minor, etc. are.
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:58 am
by mks
That is a Cdim7 chord. The only anomaly would be playing that G, but that would just make it more like a blues scale. The Cdim7 would be spelled out:
C Eb Gb A
Like Sharmaji said, just spell it out with the enharmonics and you're good. It's a full diminished chord because of that 7th which is really Bbb but would be spelled enharmonically with the A. So the notes you laid out were:
C D Eb(D#) F Gb(F#) G A(Bbb) C = Cdim7 with the exception of that G.
Here is some reference from the good ole wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminished_seventh_chord
Cheers
Re: what key is this [music theory] ???
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:38 am
by narcissus
mks wrote:C D Eb(D#) F Gb(F#) G A(Bbb) C = Cdim7 with the exception of that G.
and with the exception of the D... and the F...