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Im not too up to speed on all this and indeed dislike a large amount of dnb, however i love hardkore and jungle so im just wondering how it all locks together....

acid house--hardkore (also called rave?) (i love shut up and dance, ragga twins, early V, ram erc) -ragga influence--jungle (to me jungle always has some reggae/ragga/JK influence, or do you think it is more defined simply by time period?)----dnb----

---techstep (fast, mechanical and scary right? whats the most 'techsteppy' techstepper?)

--Jump up (big swingy obvious beats right? Is this the same as clownstep? How makes this?)

--jazzy/'intelligent' stuff (shit name obviously) (like reprazent etc..)

---breakcore

--retro junglism/yardcore etc.

Is anyone making slower dnb?

I know this is a massive pot of worms but any opinions would be cool

Okay, basically there's

Liquid- for the gays/women

Tech- for bearded virgins/ponytailed virgins who still live with their mom/mum

Jump up- for people who can count to the same number as brain cells they have/have taken to chewing aspirin tablets during the week to calm them down

Pendulum step- for students

Jungle- for balding men with ailing libidos

Neurofunk- for bearded virgins/ponytailed virgins who still live with mom/mum who like to pretend that they are intelligent but also black

I think there's some more I might have forgotten. Hope this helps!

Never a dull moment

Corpsey wrote: Jungle- for balding men with ailing libidos

correction
"for balding men with ailing libidos" --> that's drumfunk.

i think the categories are the most "basic", so helpfull.

still though:
intelligent jungle - ltj bukem and the likes, although now they mostly release liquid funk style stuff (i like liquid but compare good looking now to good looking 12 years ago and i'm sure you will go to the second hand shop for the old stuff instead)

breakcore is basically a lot of noise and imo not to be categorised as a part of dnb, sure, shitmat, bong-ra, enduser, fff, istari lasterfahrer, lfo demon, etc.. get influenced by dnb but if you check for example zombieflesheater you'll hear samples from "dread bass", with jungle style drums at a fucked up speed but other tracks by him are more in the direction of pure noise.
or the meccaknifehandchop remix of knifehandchop "bounty killer killer", where the original had dnb influenced the remix is allmost pure hardcore, crazy hard gabber kicks".

yardcore/speedhall/raggacore/whatever usually is more influenced by dnb/jungle, as the vocals need a more structured underlayer.
check the bug (concidered to be raggacore by some, i'm not sure how people on this forum think about that), bong-ra (the clash records owner), shitmat, snares man (aka venetian snares with 2 raggacore classics on one 7"), amboss, istari lasterfahrer, lfo demon, fff, atiq & enk, dj scud, M*A*S*H records, rich kid (aka panacea), kid 606, etc...

for techstep: check bad company (2000 style), renegade hardware (used to be better than now aswell), ed rush, optical, ryme tyme, trace(considered to be the producer (remixer) of the first techstep track ever being mutant revisited from t-power), dom & roland, old technical itch, ...

hardstep: same era as the first jump-up, but more about heavy basslines, think of dj rap especially.

jungle:just search the forum, there are a couple of topics.
nowadays there's still jungle getting produced but as for reggae influenced stuff i prefer '93-'96 (and mostly '94)

I remember john peel saying he was getting fed up of intelligent drum and bass and wanted to hear some stupid drum and bass for a change . Or something along those lines

Corpsey wrote:Jungle- for balding men with ailing libidos

I have a FULL head of hair thank you very much.

Corpsey wrote:Jungle- for balding men with ailing libidos

Being drunk isn't an excuse anymore? What is this world coming to? Where are my pants?!?!?!

"---techstep (fast, mechanical and scary right? whats the most 'techsteppy' techstepper?)"

Check the Techsteppin' compilation on Emotif, released in '96-97 something. Some badboy tunes on there.

funny descriptions LOL

docdoom wrote:Is anyone making slower dnb?

I'd like to know this, DnB always sounds better to me at 155-165 rather than 170+

ha. if you asked this question on doa or dnba you'd be slaughtered. big up the retired junglists on here.

for me it's this:

jungle = everything pre 1998
drum n bass - everything post 1998

I would say anything with some heavy amen, jungle breakbeat choppage is jungle, big punchy snares/ fairly regular rhythm is drum and bass.

Theres loads of people doing jungle at the moment, whether you like it or not its still definitely jungle not d&b; soundmurderer, tester, murderbot, debaser, dj c etc.

Liquid - Hospital Rec, Liquid V...
Hard/Tech - Technical Itch, Dylan, Limewax...
Neurofunk - Noisia, Phace, Offkey...
Drumfunk - Paradox, Chris Inperspective, Breakage...
Jump Up/Clownstep - Clipz, DJ Fresh, Drumsound & Simon Smith...
Intelligent/Chill - Bukem, Tayla, Blu Mar Ten...

Jungle - Congo Natty, old tunes...
RaggaJungle - Benny Page, Visionary...
Breakcore - Enduser, Doormouse...

Corpsey wrote:Okay, basically there's

Liquid- for the gays/women

Tech- for bearded virgins/ponytailed virgins who still live with their mom/mum

Jump up- for people who can count to the same number as brain cells they have/have taken to chewing aspirin tablets during the week to calm them down

Pendulum step- for students

Jungle- for balding men with ailing libidos

Neurofunk- for bearded virgins/ponytailed virgins who still live with mom/mum who like to pretend that they are intelligent but also black

I think there's some more I might have forgotten. Hope this helps!

I think this needs to be a sticky. That's really sorted me out on the movers and shakers in the burgeoning drummy bass scene. I feel hip now

big up.

Good thread, after listening to platinum breakz for the first time in ages the other day I have a new appreceation of that era of jungle/drum and bass anyone recommend any current producers or records that have the same kind of style now??

can't forget good old clown step ... shirt off , lip chewing massive




FOR EXAMPLE .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it13mMTue9o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBQ79FrHxmA

FELIS wrote:can't forget good old clown step ... shirt off , lip chewing massive




FOR EXAMPLE .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it13mMTue9o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBQ79FrHxmA

the refix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVowEXdKwxc&NR

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