NOOB trying to make a decision which DAW to use.

unknown86 · Post by **unknown86** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:25 am

I've been learning on cubase 5 for a few weeks and i like it but im not sure if its tha DAW that i should be learning. Ive played with ableton a little. I keep reading good things about reaper. Any opinions on which DAW you like and why?

zonetrooper5 · Post by **zonetrooper5** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:29 am

It doesn't matter which DAW you use to make your music in, you can make shit or good music depending upon yourself the producer. Either pirate or download the demos for each DAW which interests you and find one that works for you, they all do the same thing at the end of the day they just do it in different ways which works for different people.

LFpHUNK · Post by **LFpHUNK** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:42 am

are you a gearslut or a musician.

philly · Post by **philly** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:54 am

zonetrooper5 wrote:It doesn't matter which DAW you use to make your music in, you can make shit or good music depending upon yourself the producer. Either pirate or download the demos for each DAW which interests you and find one that works for you, they all do the same thing at the end of the day they just do it in different ways which works for different people.

I personally use pro tools with a combination of Komplete 5, reason etc...

Subside · Post by **Subside** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:39 am

Reaper

deXtrous · Post by **deXtrous** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:53 am

I've started out with Ableton Live. It's great for beginners in my opinion.

The app has its own help box present on the screen at all times which gives a good description of what every single button or effect does.

Also has some great help files.

Disco Nutter · Post by **Disco Nutter** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:57 am

It's been discussed quite a lot of times.

I use Ableton Live. Used to rock on FL, but since I moved to Live I've stepped my game up really a lot. I guess it's more intuitive to me.

Watch some YouTube clips of different DAWs and decide which ones to try out. Grab their demos and try them out for a couple of days/weeks. Stick with the one that feels more *right* to you and grab it.

Jason

Depone · Post by **Depone** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:56 am

Stick with what you know I say! Cubase 5 is shit hot, but so is ableton

Disco Nutter · Post by **Disco Nutter** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:29 am

Depone wrote:Stick with what you know I say!

Not in favour with this, personally. As I said - if I had continued making muisc on FL, I don't think I would have progressed as much as I did. But I wouldn't go as far as saying that I knew it. Maybe changing the DAW made me go deeper into the documentation, which in turn made me learn more.

Jason

Tragic_Gash · Post by **Tragic_Gash** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:36 am

you can do everything you would ever need to on Cubase.

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tripwire22 · Post by **tripwire22** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:09 pm

ok fl studio end this discussion

eXceL · Post by **eXceL** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:35 pm

unknown86 wrote:I've been learning on cubase 5 for a few weeks and i like it but im not sure if its tha DAW that i should be learning. Ive played with ableton a little. I keep reading good things about reaper. Any opinions on which DAW you like and why?

it's apon your request. FL studio is what im using at the moment and it just mostly you say make wobble with this speed and it kinda does it for you (you have to have the sytrus or 3xosc or w/e you use out though.) cubase5 is mostly good for understand what does what, so does fl but cubase5 is an expanded version on fl

alphacat · Post by **alphacat** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:48 pm

Considering the licensing terms of Reaper (free until you decide to pay) it'd be foolish not to give it a try just based on that alone. Additionally, there are a lot of skills you'll pick up using Reaper that are conceptually transferable to just about any other DAW out there. Oh, and the plugs bundled with Reaper are super-badass - you can make some seriously mighty sounds solely with them and a couple freeware VSTi's.

Subside · Post by **Subside** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:16 pm

^ yup, just go to this link http://www.dubstepforum.com/free-portab ... 73393.html download it and with some basic knowledge of music production you will be pushing out tunes in no time!

freakah · Post by **freakah** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:23 pm

REAPER REAPER REAPER, when I thought what DAW I used was important I used to flick round everywhere, cubase, ableton, fl studio, and always came back to Reaper, just something about it!

.

Teeny tiny team of developers, really cheap liscence (or free if you can put up with a nag screen for 6 seconds, but buy a liscence! the dev's deserve it), never ever crashed on me, loads in seconds, is 4.7mb big or some tiny shit like that, runs off a USB stick, loads of amazing quality low cpu plugins come free with it, easy, entirely customisable workflow, hundreds of user-made themes to suit everyone's personal taste, assign your own keyboard shortcuts, none of those crappy tools - makes everything so much quicker, no dedicated tracks - each track can be audio, midi, whatever you want it to be! I don't know why you're still here, get downloading!!

Seriously though, just pick one that suits your ideas of a DAW best, and stick with it no matter how pissed off or frustrated you get, learn it inside out, and you'll be fine!

And remember - a bad worker will always blame his tools...

Isturite · Post by **Isturite** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:42 pm

Ableton for usage is amazing. it's what i use... but I might switch my production over to logic because Ableton lacks in sound quality, there is something very choppy about the sound. i hope to use ableton for live mixing/performance and produce in logic due to it's very nice audio engine... I've just noticed tracks make in other DAW's tend to redline in Ableton, i think the new audio interface is messed up because of the new algorithm they are using..... it's just starting to sound too digital.

But i agree with the idea that the DAW really does not matter, it's the producer that matters... but i have to say I really don't like Fl studios

kaiori breathe · Post by **kaiori breathe** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:47 pm

Asking other people what daw to get is like me going down stairs and deciding what to have for dinner based on what everyone else likes. It's silly. I'd end up eating fish in some weird ass garlic sauce with something totally stupid like those horrible minty potatoes my mum makes - and I hate all those things.

We can give you some ideas about what each is like. All I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't be persuaded to get a daw just because everyone is saying you should. Take on board what these guys say because most of them do know their stuff and they do know their daws, but equally feel free to ignore them if it feels right to do so and you find one daw more appealing than the one that's being suggested.

I was recommended one daw in particular when I started, I got it and it's the one daw I never use because I just don't like it and I don't have a feel for it (I won't say what it is in case it influences you at all). Yet the daw that everybody made fun of and told me was useless is the one I find most appealing and work most effectively with.

I suggest doing real research into as many daws as you can. Wiki has a fairly full list of them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Audio_Workstation < links to official pages for each daw can be found at the bottom.

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