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benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:06 am
by joekool
i know there's quite a bit of pitching things down 2 give it that slow-motion vibe, and the swing is aggressive, but how does he get it all 2 sound so chunky and thick and dirty and raw?? i realize this is a very broad thing so i'll just point to a couple of my favorites..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e4bNVNE5RM << "descending" those claps are HEAVY DUTY :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPtY-11d ... re=related << "baltimore clap" so minimal but there's still quite a bit of weight in the drums..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwXsyJ3z ... re=related << "mini moto" just crazy obv

does it sound like there's some compression involved?? i don't hear much reverb but i know its in there... im not trying 2 jack his style or anything, just tryin 2 get my drums to SMACK.. 8) if any1 has any tips i'd love 2 hear them as i've only been producing for 5 or 6 years now and am just starting 2 really get involved.. thx in advance!

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:24 am
by LFpHUNK
if you want that SMACK:

1) hold microphone (sm57 is best) up to girls bare bottom, make sure you are recording

2) with the free hand, cock arm back and swipe furiously forward with palm open (like if you was to give a high five to your best homie), aim for bouncy part of girls bare bottom

3) when the CORRECT contact is made, a nice good sounding SMACK will create sound vibrations, which your mic (if positioned correctly) will pick up

4) if you got a screech/grunt/scream -- dont worry!-- just use your DAW of choice to edit it out. you might want to edit out the swiping of air, etc as well

5) layer that SMACK with all your drum samples, and be amazed

5) get. laid.

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:36 am
by Bassmagnet
LFpHUNK wrote:if you want that SMACK:

1) hold microphone (sm57 is best) up to girls bare bottom, make sure you are recording

2) with the free hand, cock arm back and swipe furiously forward with palm open (like if you was to give a high five to your best homie), aim for bouncy part of girls bare bottom

3) when the CORRECT contact is made, a nice good sounding SMACK will create sound vibrations, which your mic (if positioned correctly) will pick up

4) if you got a screech/grunt/scream -- dont worry!-- just use your DAW of choice to edit it out. you might want to edit out the swiping of air, etc as well

5) layer that SMACK with all your drum samples, and be amazed

5) get. laid.
The black women have the best shmacks

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:43 am
by narcissus
actually, if you keep the woosh in, it makes a nice lead up to the smack on each 3rd beat.. and if she screams then bam, instant bar 9 or borgore!

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:57 am
by darkdubz
ha ha funny shit

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:14 am
by joekool
ahh okay it finally makes sense.. i was smacking them in the face but i realize i had it all backwards now..

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:57 am
by Vcore
Layer up your drum hits and then do some paralell compression so your not loosing all your original transients but your still getting that punch from the compressor. Send your drums to a bus channel and then try adding some light compression for some extra punch and to glue all your hits together.

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:25 am
by lowpass
joekool wrote:ahh okay it finally makes sense.. i was smacking them in the face but i realize i had it all backwards now..

Nah if you get it right then she'll slap your face after the initial hit, this will give a nice slap back echo (often used in this style)


On a serious note I was just thinking the other day how Benga is one of my favorite producers when it comes to drums

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:00 am
by thepolymerdrone
@darkdubz...filthy tuneeeeee! awesome synth..it's got a bit of a ganja dub feel/sound. good work.

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the drone

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:07 am
by joekool
Vcore wrote:Layer up your drum hits and then do some paralell compression so your not loosing all your original transients but your still getting that punch from the compressor. Send your drums to a bus channel and then try adding some light compression for some extra punch and to glue all your hits together.
wise words.. i've tried for a while now to use zero compression in my mixes && its gonna be tough 2 get out of the habit.. i have this irrational fear that the second i put a compressor on my track everything is just gonna go all vtech on me.. it may be time for me 2 dip back into using a lil dab of tasteful compression now && then though..

@lowpass - - - - dude's tracks are basically %70 drums (if not more) so he better be good at it :lol: when i listened close enough to realize he was pitching just about everything but his kicks down it was a serious AHA moment 4 me.. changed the way i built riffs immediately.. now i'll sumtimes have 4 hats to a single hit, just goin crazy w/ the automation, makin hi-hat chords :lol:

i think the importance of a solid drum track is rly understated sumtimes.. i always have 2 look @ it like, if the bassline, melody, w/e are all the mass and matter inside the small universe im creating, then the drums && riddim are the physics that keeps it all in check.. i think lee perry says it best:



pum-pum is the kick and the bass, titi is the hi-hats.. when they come 2gether its sexual in the sense that the riddim is the act of creation in && of itself, vibrations are emitted.. vibration is energy so when the riddim drops the ppl dance... or else thats how its always made sense 2 me :D

/jabbering

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:34 am
by JFK
I have some recordings of my boyfriends hairy ball bags slapping against my fat arse. Will post a link when I get back from work.

:w:

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:57 am
by joekool
JFK wrote:I have some recordings of my boyfriends hairy ball bags slapping against my fat arse. Will post a link when I get back from work.

:w:
fuck work, 320 or gtfo

Re: benga's drums..

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:30 am
by drokkr
Have a look at the Computer Music thing Benga did, it's on Youtube :wink: