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Doing musical homework for college and asked myself that since dubstep is more a kind of 4/4 counted in 2 would it be pertinent to write dubstep in 6/8 or would it mess with all the dj mixing process ?

Sharmaji wrote:

That is funking tune man!

make the music first man, the djs can deal with it later

Sharmaji wrote:

Sub Swara with the instant & inevitable pwnage.

HUGE.


I don't do a lot of dubstep, but I've done some hiphop tracks in 5/4, 7/4 and 11/4.... Probably not the most friendly of time signatures, but they were written in the manner that they needed to exist. So be it.

As a DJ, I can vouch that if a tune is hot ... there is always a way to figure out how to drop it in the mix. The hotter the track, the more effort I am willing to put into making it work in a set.

Mad EP wrote:

Sharmaji wrote:

Sub Swara with the instant & inevitable pwnage.

HUGE.


I don't do a lot of dubstep, but I've done some hiphop tracks in 5/4, 7/4 and 11/4.... Probably not the most friendly of time signatures, but they were written in the manner that they needed to exist. So be it.

As a DJ, I can vouch that if a tune is hot ... there is always a way to figure out how to drop it in the mix. The hotter the track, the more effort I am willing to put into making it work in a set.

that is just triplets and a normal 4/4 the subswara one.

tune in my sig is 6/8, first time i written something that isn't 4/4. in retrospect not sure how much point there was doing it that way, i dunno really. i might give it a go again.

i was one of the first (if not very first) to do dubstep in the 6/8 time, it's only because im not signed that you didn't hear it. anyway, on renoise I had the LPM number 9. and 192 lines I think it was with a 2 gap space instead of 4.

When I first started making music seriously, I was 16.. Vocalist in a Dillinger Escape Plan'esque band. Nothing we did was in 4/4 and nothing we did had one time signature all the way through. I couldn't play guitar or drums back then but I had a big hand in composition/arrangement and got a natural feel for odd time signatures.

When I started producing electronic music (late 19, about to turn 20), I really stopped caring about time signatures all together so every time I started producing tunes, I thought they were in 4/4 (I 'wrote' melodies in my head) without counting them, but as soon as I noticed I had to change the number of lines in the pattern of Renoise, I noticed I was writing in 6/8, 5/4, 13/4, 7/4, etc. Even switching time signatures after a number of bars.

What I'm saying is: just make the music that feels good to you and don't be tied down by numbers, be it BPM or time signature. If a song sounds 'right' in 6/8, that's all the 'point' you need, no?

6/8 IS (or rather, CAN BE FELT AS) 4/4 with triplets. it really is that easy.

eskmo's been running a tune in 7/4 lately that is just devastating dancefloors. pure sex appeal.

and tron is pretty much a 6/8 joint. just write in 4/4 and phrase/quantize in 6th, 12th, and 24th notes instead of quarters, 8ths, and 16ths.

Sharmaji wrote: just write in 4/4 and phrase/quantize in 6th, 12th, and 24th notes instead of quarters, 8ths, and 16ths.

see i think with my tune i did the opposite of that, written in 6/8 but ends up sounding like 4/4 because of where i've placed hits.

If you can make a gem of a track with dodgy times etc, you're essentially guaranteeing that some DJ isn't going to try and ruin it by over mixing it with another track. Think of it as a vaccination against being mixed, and as a result the whole track will be played 'as is'. DJs from what I gather like a simple life; they get cheers and respects just for their choice in vinyls primarily, not what they do with them (from observations at nightclubs)

Anyway time signatures are somewhat of an illusion... Loads of dubstep uses phasing tricks that are only herded into 4/4 via the drums anyway...

Which eskmo track?

Not dubstep as such, but Matrix's 'Convoy' switches to 6/8 towards the end of the track. The switch used to kill it at Metalheadz!

yamaz wrote:Which eskmo track?

lands and bones. big tune


i released a couple of tracks that switch from 4/7 to 7/7 on twenty twelve last year. time signatures are fun

Don't suppose anyone could explain time signatures?

Hurtdeer wrote:i released a couple of tracks that switch from 4/7 to 7/7 on twenty twelve last year. time signatures are fun

Umm, 4/7? Is that even possible?