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Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:08 am
by stappard
Slightly embarrassing problem but I'll ask away anyway. Back in the murky depths of time I had some pirated VSTs which I've since removed as I wasn't using them or bought properly as I was. Learning the native synths in Logic has helped no end as well, you really don't need much else.

Anyway, whenever Logic starts it scans for VSTs including the NI Akoustic Piano VST, which I've removed all remnants of from my hard drive, yet Logic still stalls during start up as it trys to find it. I can't figure out how to convince Logic it no longer exists and as such have to manually abort VST scan every time I start up Logic. Not a big deal but still a ****** hassle when I want to get going with a song.

Any ideas humbly received my production friends. :w:




edit: insert AU for VST for any mac sticklers out there :lol:

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:49 am
by Depone
stappard wrote: edit: insert AU for VST for any mac sticklers out there :lol:
Urm, so you got rid of the .au or the .vst??? cause getting rid of the vst version aight going to get rid of the .au :?

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:00 am
by mmplisskin
go into library/application support/Native instruments

also check the same folder under your user folder

delete the plug ins you want to delete in the NI folder

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:24 am
by Depone
mmplisskin wrote:go into library/application support/Native instruments

also check the same folder under your user folder

delete the plug ins you want to delete in the NI folder
thats not ware the plugin will be dude, thats just supporting data like manuals and ish.

goto

Library--->audio--->Plugins--->Components. find the offending plugin there!
also cheeck
User-->(your name)--->Library--->audio--->Plugins--->Components. find the offending plugin ther

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:25 am
by lazermouse
I have the same problem with some corrupted freeware that I have removed. Logic still thinks that they exist and the whole audio unit scan stops soon after I've started. I have deleted all files from the component and vst folders and I've also unchecked these AU's in Logic's audio unit manager. Any suggestions?

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:15 am
by stappard
Depone wrote:
stappard wrote: edit: insert AU for VST for any mac sticklers out there :lol:
Urm, so you got rid of the .au or the .vst??? cause getting rid of the vst version aight going to get rid of the .au :?

Sorry I meant That they're AUs but I was referring to them as VSTs.


Think its work actually, thanks for the advice. I had been looking in the plugins file under user rather than on the main hard drive.

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:45 pm
by mmplisskin
Depone wrote:
mmplisskin wrote:go into library/application support/Native instruments

also check the same folder under your user folder

delete the plug ins you want to delete in the NI folder
thats not ware the plugin will be dude, thats just supporting data like manuals and ish.

goto

Library--->audio--->Plugins--->Components. find the offending plugin there!
also cheeck
User-->(your name)--->Library--->audio--->Plugins--->Components. find the offending plugin ther
actually that is not where NI puts it.... if you had NI plug ins you can check there.



It might be best just to read this

http://www.native-instruments.com/knowl ... n+Mac+OS+X

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:36 pm
by Depone
mmplisskin wrote:
Depone wrote:
mmplisskin wrote:go into library/application support/Native instruments

also check the same folder under your user folder

delete the plug ins you want to delete in the NI folder
thats not ware the plugin will be dude, thats just supporting data like manuals and ish.

goto

Library--->audio--->Plugins--->Components. find the offending plugin there!
also cheeck
User-->(your name)--->Library--->audio--->Plugins--->Components. find the offending plugin ther
actually that is not where NI puts it.... if you had NI plug ins you can check there.



It might be best just to read this

http://www.native-instruments.com/knowl ... n+Mac+OS+X
Umm yeah it is... thats ware all mine are man

(from your link)

(locations of plugins)
* Macintosh HD/Library/Audio/Plug-ins/Components/PRODUCTNAME.component

* Macintosh HD/Library/Audio/Plug-ins/VST/PRODUCTNAME.vst

* Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-ins/PRODUCTNAME.dpm

The standalone versions are in the app's folder, but their plugins for your DAW are 100% in the locations above

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:04 pm
by mmplisskin
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5747/picture13p.png image to big to post...

to be clear depone... from left to right
application folder

the rest of the folders are under username mwp and then Library
application support folder- clearly has databases, presets etc
audio components-nothing NI here.... presets folder though... thats what you said was in application support...
Preferences folder- plenty of plist registration files....

now unless this is a bug... I dont see how it could be since I reinstalled many times

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:46 pm
by Depone
mmplisskin wrote:http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5747/picture13p.png image to big to post...

to be clear depone... from left to right
application folder

the rest of the folders are under username mwp and then Library
application support folder- clearly has databases, presets etc
audio components-nothing NI here.... presets folder though... thats what you said was in application support...
Preferences folder- plenty of plist registration files....

now unless this is a bug... I dont see how it could be since I reinstalled many times
again your being mistaken. the plugins that logic use are NOT put in your user library, but the main HD one... the one you didn't list ... heres my screen
yes the supporting files and databases are there, but NOT the plugins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6872 ... 0at223.jpg

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:20 pm
by marshy
Very simple question, how do you stop it from automatically opening your last project when you start Logic? It's a bitch when you're desperate to throw something down, i'd prefer it to open up the box that comes up when you create a new project.

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:25 pm
by Depone
marshy wrote:Very simple question, how do you stop it from automatically opening your last project when you start Logic? It's a bitch when you're desperate to throw something down, i'd prefer it to open up the box that comes up when you create a new project.
Startup action ;)
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Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:34 pm
by marshy
This feels good, knowing i'm loading up a track i don't want to work on for the very last time. Cheers!

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:06 pm
by boko91
If You un-click the offending Audio Unit in your Audio Units Manager, Logic shouldn't look for it :D

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:12 pm
by Depone
boko91 wrote:If You un-click the offending Audio Unit in your Audio Units Manager, Logic shouldn't look for it :D
nah it still looks for it, but wont be available in the plugins window

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:53 pm
by stappard
Depone wrote:
boko91 wrote:If You un-click the offending Audio Unit in your Audio Units Manager, Logic shouldn't look for it :D
nah it still looks for it, but wont be available in the plugins window

Yeah this. Sorted now and the other tip for not loading anything up is cool too, that was annoying. Thanks!

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:15 pm
by mmplisskin
Hey depone, thanks for making me look like an ass!

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:47 pm
by Depone
mmplisskin wrote:Hey depone, thanks for making me look like an ass!
Lol misunderstanding mate. 8) its all good

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:03 pm
by wirez
Dep, I've got a little Logic question for your wise ass...

Sidechain filtering... How?

Say, for example, subby kick, subby bass... When subby kick plays I want subby bass high passed...

Can't seem to work it out? And automating is it long!

Re: Problem with "going legit"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:42 pm
by Depone
wirez wrote:Dep, I've got a little Logic question for your wise ass...

Sidechain filtering... How?

Say, for example, subby kick, subby bass... When subby kick plays I want subby bass high passed...

Can't seem to work it out? And automating is it long!
Not sure if i have seen an EQ or filter with sidechain input (i think ableton has one).
What i would do is split the frequency via either a linear phase EQ or i prefer to use logics multi band compressor, with no compression but soloing just 2 bands. very handy tool!. So on the sub split, you have band one solo'd, and for the mids/highs solo the other band solo'd

Then just use regular sidechain compression on just the sub band. make sense?
Scrap that im gonna make a template and show ya