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im fully aware that most producers take years to make there first 'good' song... but how much did you play around in the many years teaching yourselves... every day? once a week? there must of been a time when you looked at reason like i do and just think ... what the fuck... like i know what i want in my head.. just not how to get it onto the sequencer you know? ... i wanna be able to make my own stuff not what some tutorial tells me u know ;p

i read like most posts that comes on production forum about how to do this do that.. but how did you all get to the point where you know the answers?!

trying to replicate that sound in my head is that a bad idea? do people just work with what they have? am i expecting too much?

Buck up little camper. Just start trying to do what you want to do. When you can't do what you want to do, figure out how to do this. Do this a few hundred thousand times, and you will know a lot of the answers too.

When you get the hang of it, you will see that it's actually not all that difficult. It just seems bigger and harder right now.

i felt i had a good song within like 9 or 10 months but that cuz i never left the computer. it prolly would take a few years to master everything though

i'm in the same boat you are.

gradually, i'm learning what does what. the thing i find myself doing the most is opening my daw, try to make a sound/drum loop to satisfaction, eventually getting frustrated because it doesn't sound how i want, then closing the daw only to repeat the process later. i've made some progress in terms of sticking to one track and actually getting an arrangement going, but it's still maddening at this point.

just gonna take time... stick with it though, if it's really what you want to do you'll soldier through it.

Its a connect the dots mentally process...

You learn n learn n learn and eventually you start to be applying CONCEPTs and not TECHNIQUES... your knowing what that sound in your head looks like... And then you get stuck like everyone else and learna bunch more.

between experimentation, practice, and learning, you'll slowly get the hang of how stuff works.
for me, I just experimented, and id just figure things out. like "oh, so THATS how i get my synth to make that sound i hear in those songs", or "oh so thats the effect that makes sound sound like that" etc etc.
lil bit of that, and tutorials and what not and you'll be well on your way to crankin out the beautiful tunes you create in your head! :]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRhe6LL8NFw i made this before like but since then... i was with my brother and he was putting his input in all time time aswell... but i dont want my dubstep to sound like that really i wanna learn the processes burial.. 16 bit.. do in there more chilled items

Brutal wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRhe6LL8NFw i made this before like but since then... i was with my brother and he was putting his input in all time time aswell... but i dont want my dubstep to sound like that really i wanna learn the processes burial.. 16 bit.. do in there more chilled items

Dont tell yourself you want to learn how to be them...

You want to learn your workflow so you can sound like you dude.

As someone who speant a good while trying to make music that wasnt me, dont make that mistake man. Youll hate it, and your true colors come out eventually.

Basic A wrote:

Brutal wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRhe6LL8NFw i made this before like but since then... i was with my brother and he was putting his input in all time time aswell... but i dont want my dubstep to sound like that really i wanna learn the processes burial.. 16 bit.. do in there more chilled items

Dont tell yourself you want to learn how to be them...

You want to learn your workflow so you can sound like you dude.

As someone who speant a good while trying to make music that wasnt me, dont make that mistake man. Youll hate it, and your true colors come out eventually.

Listen to him be yourself. you'll learn fast and then u can make song in that vein of them but better some day some how unique with your own touches

yeah i know that its gonna be 'my music' rather than theres... i mean more in the production sense.. like quality and just like know how to make the sounds they do and the principles of the sounds i have been reading that production thread and the bible and i do find the theorycrafting helpful but still putting all that down into the DAW... :O ;p

did you guys ever make stuff and just be like yeah that sounds wack ;p


anyone fancy pm'ing me there msn or something so i can nudge you in times of need ;p will be paid with <3 <3

Brutal wrote:yeah i know that its gonna be 'my music' rather than theres... i mean more in the production sense.. like quality and just like know how to make the sounds they do and the principles of the sounds i have been reading that production thread and the bible and i do find the theorycrafting helpful but still putting all that down into the DAW... :O ;p

did you guys ever make stuff and just be like yeah that sounds wack ;p


anyone fancy pm'ing me there msn or something so i can nudge you in times of need ;p will be paid with <3 <3

hop on aim bro more people on there than msn trust me

tripwire22 wrote:
hop on aim bro more people on there than msn trust me

mate loving the track in your sig... i just got aim orite to add you?

Brutal wrote:

tripwire22 wrote:
hop on aim bro more people on there than msn trust me

mate loving the track in your sig... i just got aim orite to add you?

of course

Brutal wrote:but how much did you play around in the many years teaching yourselves... every day? once a week?

few hours a day should do it

seriously, the whole point is to get so much addicted that you just can't spend a day without making & playing music... then you're on the right path...

Took me about 5 years to make a mediocre track by modern standards.

Started off with Sonar 3 Studio Edition.

Those were the fucking days. All my tracks from back then have a very original sound to them

Just a shame that they're all shit.

egoless wrote:

Brutal wrote:but how much did you play around in the many years teaching yourselves... every day? once a week?

few hours a day should do it

seriously, the whole point is to get so much addicted that you just can't spend a day without making & playing music... then you're on the right path...

This. I'm full time university doing my dissertation and have managed to cut myself down to about 2 or 3 hours producing a day. The guy in my office thought I was doing music research as well as law because logic was open so much haha. It's so addictive, pretty much all I think about. I can't imagine what I used to do before it? Must've had a lot of free time I guess...

it's taken me all my life and i still don't think i've made a truly amazing song.

I gave up having a life to sit in front of a computer and get pasty and I've never been happier

I've been producing a few years and I feel that I just made my first "good" track that could be played out live...

I don't think I'm a good producer yet, but I remember feeling exactly as you did when I started OP. I actually made a thread kinda in the same vein as yours when I started on these forums.

I think as long as you keep reading threads on here, and experiment and watch youtube tutorials and read everything you can get your hands on you'll improve. It can feel pretty hopeless but if you put the work in you'll get rewarded. My style mightn't be what everyone likes but i'm making music I want to hear and it's mostly thanks to this forum's help in directing me and pointing me in the right direction.

I used to get torn apart in the feedback threads for my tracks, I did everything wrong, my bass sounds had been eq'd to remove bass frequencies, i'd cut out the mid sections in my snares I'd bump up the high end on a kick. But with each track I put up I learned something because of the great and honest crit I'd get on them, and now I don't make any of the mistakes I used to. Each time I put up a track the number of criticisms with regards to the production value went down, because with each track I learned something.

Make threads, ask questions, join in discussions, start talking one on one with guys on this forum (nobody will mind, everyone's friendly), put your tracks up for feedback and one day it will just click.

If I'm honest I still don't really understand a lot of what I do but I can make the sounds I want in my head now because I've learned by trial and error what works and what doesn't when trying to make certain sounds.

It eventually comes naturally, because all the reading and learning and the trial and error eventually embeds itself in your head.