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External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:28 am
by Olie Bassweight
looking at getting a new soundcard, any reccomendations guys?

obviously im after something with line in, midi etc.

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:54 am
by Basic A
NI Kontrol Interfaces or Focusrite Saffire... you pick

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:35 am
by deadly_habit
Basic A wrote:NI Kontrol Interfaces or Focusrite Saffire... you pick
also depends on os and specs of comp and what else you want OP
post up specs and what type of ins and outs you want

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:17 am
by nowaysj
Why external? If you have a PC tower, I'd recommend a PCI card, the fastest, least latent interface type there is. Blows doors on usb and firewire.

And thus I recommend whole heartedly the emu 1616m. It is the shit, search for 1616m on here, and see what you find.

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:19 am
by deadly_habit
nowaysj wrote:Why external. If you have a PC tower, I'd recommend a PCI card, the fastest, least latent interface type there is. Blows doors on usb and firewire.

And thus I recommend whole heartedly the emu 1616m. It is the shit, search for 1616m on here, and see what you find.
:z:
external seems to be the norm now
everyone has laptops or is too paranoid to open their towers or racks
pci or pcie cards kill any usb or firewire interfaces for latency
and gen they are cheaper

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:38 am
by nowaysj
Got an emu 1616m pci on the tower and a 1616 (not an m) pc card for the lappy. Love the emu's.

One problem that I have on the lappy is the emu drivers/hardware do not sleep, so crash my system when it sleeps. I might be able to fix that, but have never tried.

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:44 am
by deadly_habit
nowaysj wrote:Got an emu 1616m pci on the tower and a 1616 (not an m) pc card for the lappy. Love the emu's.

One problem that I have on the lappy is the emu drivers/hardware do not sleep, so crash my system when it sleeps. I might be able to fix that, but have never tried.
prolly can, the emus are solid
i want a rme next box i build
m audio delta 1010 series used to be hella good too
shame its a brand name now bought out

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:35 pm
by archer
I`m looking for an external soundcard as well, for a lappy user, it is better to get a firewire or usb card, or it doesn`t really matter, depends more from case to case?

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:57 pm
by nowaysj
Here is the deal - people squabble about which is faster, usb or firewire. Let me just say that in actual real life use, firewire can be faster for audio than usb, but only if the firewire hardware on the motherboard is built properly.

One of the few reasons why Mac's were actually better for audio was that they had firewire ports with the proper Texas Instruments chips on the controller.

A lot of firewire ports don't actually have the right chipset to quickly move audio. Apple dropped the TI chipset for a while, then started to receive complaints from audio pros, then went back, but I recently heard some rumor that they were dropping the more expensive TI chipset again. I don't know.

But bottom line, you should research which chips were used for your firewire port if you wanna go with firewire. You generally can figure this out. I've seen pc/windoz machines with the TI chipset, but most don't have it, as the manufacturers only care enough to put a firewire port on the machine so they can get the sale, and could fucking care less if it actually works for its intended purpose.

With that said, really you can use either usb or firewire. You may have higher latency than you might like, but you can live with that to a certain extent.

Along with the specs of the audio interface, you should research into the quality of the drivers. This is of paramount importance. You can buy a big expensive excellent sounding box, that occasionally locks up, or doesn't really work with your os.

In regards to the driver, I strongly recommend an audio interface with a multi-client driver. This allows a whole bunch of audio sources to access the audio interface. This is extremely powerful, and for me now, a necessity. If you think I'm bollox on this one, take my word now, thank me later.

Head over to http://www.gearsluts.com and research this question, you will find some pretty good detailed information from some down right knowledgeable people.

Also remember, that depending on the age of the laptop, you can also use pc card, or pcie interfaces. These are usually faster, less error prone than usb or firewire interfaces.

I love, and I mean love, emu's 1616m, it does everything I've mentioned. It sounds great and works perfectly (other than that sleep thing, that could be my fault).

And finally, don't buy anything from m-audio. Even if they try to sell it to you at the music store.

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:17 pm
by archer
tnx for you`re complex answer, I`ll check my audio configuration on my lappy and then start seaching out, tnx again

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:27 pm
by nowaysj
one big happy family :W:

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:06 pm
by back2onett
for a low level home studio setup internal cards will generally perform better but not by any noticeable amount, well that's how it is in my experience anyway

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm
by Sharmaji
budget and os plz

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:10 pm
by Olie Bassweight
Thanks for all input guys!

ahh im running a Pc laptop with win 7 64 bit

Re: External Soundcard Recomendations

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:44 am
by deadly_habit
foccusrite sapphire 6 usb is prolly your best option