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Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:45 am
by Dub_Dirty_Dub
Hey,

I recently started getting into Dubstep, listening to artists like Skream, Bar9, Excision, Datsik, Downlink, Distance and Kromestar to name a few. I also like metal and punk so I really love dark heavy stuff :evil: . Anyway, I'm just wondering, how do I get started out mixing with regards to equipment (I know you get what you pay for, but I'm on quite a low budget) and software aswell as actually learning how to beatmatch etc. Any tips or advice is really appreciated! Also, if you could recommend any artists I might not know about that are metal influenced or just so dirty you need a shower after listening to it :P

Oooh and if anyone knows what the best speakers would be for my PC to get the most out of the stuff I listen to.

Cheers

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:16 am
by bolsty
Dub_Dirty_Dub wrote: Also, if you could recommend any artists I might not know about that are metal influenced or just so dirty you need a shower after listening to it :P
:u: gtfo

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:21 am
by Sirius
HHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHHAHHAAHAH!!!!

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:35 am
by Dub_Dirty_Dub
:/ alright then

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:46 am
by collige
Dub_Dirty_Dub wrote:Any tips or advice is really appreciated! Also, if you could recommend any artists I might not know about that are metal influenced
Vex'd
Broken Note

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:58 am
by drlego
Dub_Dirty_Dub wrote:Hey,

I recently started getting into Dubstep, listening to artists like Skream, Bar9, Excision, Datsik, Downlink, Distance and Kromestar to name a few. I also like metal and punk so I really love dark heavy stuff :evil: . Anyway, I'm just wondering, how do I get started out mixing with regards to equipment (I know you get what you pay for, but I'm on quite a low budget) and software aswell as actually learning how to beatmatch etc. Any tips or advice is really appreciated! Also, if you could recommend any artists I might not know about that are metal influenced or just so dirty you need a shower after listening to it :P

Oooh and if anyone knows what the best speakers would be for my PC to get the most out of the stuff I listen to.

Cheers
hmmmm

If you wanna get starting mixing you need to work out if you are going to be a vinyl only DJ or a CD / Digital DJ.

I personally use a Digital Vinyl system because it gives me flexibility around new tunes and mixing my old favourite records with unreleased bootlegs I might get from producers.

If you want to go down the mixing root then you might be looking at

1 2 Decks (get Technics 1210s or 1200s everything else is serious waste)
2 a Mixer get something cheap to begin with. Someone might give you a free old old one just to get you started
3 some vinyl
4 sound card
5 laptop
6 traktor / serato

you really need a decent system to plug them into, there is no point in listening to dubstep without a subwoofer.

Try to get a stereo rather than speakers for you computer.

build small and slow. Maybe just go for digital at first so you dont have to splash out for 2 decks, a mixer and vinyl. Something like serato itch with a midi controller could be just what you need.

http://serato.com/itch/vestax-vci-300

Anyway in terms of learning how to mix, thats going to be hard to teach yourself. Maybe youtube tutorials and getting someone to help you out is the way forward.

Chasing Shadows, Bassnectar, Coki are all class people to check out.

Buy the music, support the scene. Best of luck.

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:32 am
by Dub_Dirty_Dub
Thanks alot man, I appreciate it :wink:

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:43 am
by DZA
bolsty wrote:
Dub_Dirty_Dub wrote: Also, if you could recommend any artists I might not know about that are metal influenced or just so dirty you need a shower after listening to it :P
:u: gtfo
Why do people say stupid shit like this
It dosent make you sound cool

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:57 am
by Jhonny2x4
DZA wrote:
bolsty wrote:
Dub_Dirty_Dub wrote: Also, if you could recommend any artists I might not know about that are metal influenced or just so dirty you need a shower after listening to it :P
:u: gtfo
Why do people say stupid shit like this
It dosent make you sound cool
Most likely because he is from the 14 year old youtube crowd.

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:10 am
by bolsty
drlego wrote: 1 2 Decks (get Technics 1210s or 1200s everything else is serious waste)
I love people who say shit like this, not everyone can afford to get tech's for their first decks, some of the worlds best turntablists started out on belt drives! (by no means condoning belt drives however).

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:19 am
by Sirius
when i seen this thread i thought i might have been about scratching the dex, then I read his comment & thought..... What the fuck?? he's guna fit in here perfectly ah!!! :lol:

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:50 am
by MPathy
Wait until you can afford 1200's or 1210's as you will regret buying anything else. Any mixer will do to start off with, the simpler the better really. I also stress you buy vinyl as people who use anything else are shit stnuc......apart from loefah. Now fly my pretty!

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:05 pm
by noam
after learning to mix on my mates Technics, i got given an old set of Stanton STR8-60's and they're terrible well actually the left deck is alrite, the right deck is fucked, i didnt buy em myself tho, but fuck it, i can mix on them even tho they're budget. The difference however, between what you can actually DO with technics is stupid tho, for mixin they're just ARE the best, i never really got it before but ive been on a few sets of decks that aren't technics and they just don't compare, if you can afford it second hand technics beat the shit out of any other new decks you can buy, you'll learn why eventually!

good luck startin out, it'll take a while before you do anything thats good, keep goin, you'll be sweet

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:42 pm
by drlego
bolsty wrote:
drlego wrote: 1 2 Decks (get Technics 1210s or 1200s everything else is serious waste)
I love people who say shit like this, not everyone can afford to get tech's for their first decks, some of the worlds best turntablists started out on belt drives! (by no means condoning belt drives however).
some of them did.

Loads more people give up because they cannot get their mixes to stay beat matched because the decks are shit.

I mentioned that it might be a lot of expense so he should have a little look at going digital now and then getting decks and vinyl at a later date.

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:52 am
by bolsty
drlego wrote: Loads more people give up because they cannot get their mixes to stay beat matched because the decks are shit.
Well what does that say about the person then..

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:06 am
by kingGhost
srsly, dude came here innocently asking how to get started dj'ing and the first response is "gtfo?" go fuck yourself prick..

people like that are the ones who contribute nothing to the scene other than an ugly face and a bad attitude

big ups OP, look into getting a laptop and Serato imo if you want to stay digtal.... which is easier for a beginner i would wager.

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:09 am
by Frodo Bassbins
torrent virtual dj cracked version and start from there. dl the virtual dj skin called mixlab. youtube virtual dj for beginners and u shud be able to find that vid that teaches u how to mix (basic beginner shit) and also gives a link to the mixlab skin. and u shud be mixin in no time ! fuck the haters

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:15 am
by kingGhost
Frodo Bassbins wrote:torrent virtual dj cracked version and start from there. dl the virtual dj skin called mixlab. youtube virtual dj for beginners and u shud be able to find that vid that teaches u how to mix (basic beginner shit) and also gives a link to the mixlab skin. and u shud be mixin in no time ! fuck the haters
:o

not sure if you have a Mac, OP, but i believe with itunes for mac there's actually a free mixing program called DJ. it offers the basics... two channels, the ability to "scratch," a crossfader, volume and pitch control, and i think an EQ...

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:45 am
by J-R
My mate got a pair of second hand pioneer "pro dj" decks and a mixer, set him back about $600 NZ (which is roughly 300pounds..) and he's had them a couple of years now. They have served him well, they're only just starting to really fuck out now and the main reason is the room they were in started leaking and yeah...

What I'd do is go down to your local record store (or one close-ish to you) and just have a chat to them, just tell them your just starting out and looking to get a little setup goin. To start off a mixer and 2 turntables is probably your cheapest option, then just have a dig round for some second hand vinyl and buy a few new plates and then start learning, you don't need many to start off with.

The CD/Digital/Vinyl thing is purely a personal choice, I learnt on mix on vinyl myself and I'm glad I did. For me I enjoy having a dig through bargain bins for lost gems or picking up a new plate I bought for the first time and letting it play. I mainly mix on cd's now but thats because I a very limited amount of funds to spend on tunes, and digital format is cheaper. Though I still buy vinyl, I just have to be more selective on what I buy at the moment. Still prefer mixing vinyl over other formats, brings me joy :)

Re: Getting started from scratch?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:18 pm
by badger
kingGhost wrote:srsly, dude came here innocently asking how to get started dj'ing and the first response is "gtfo?" go fuck yourself prick..

people like that are the ones who contribute nothing to the scene other than an ugly face and a bad attitude
exactly

some people on this forum seem to think that acting like a thoroughly contemptible little git is a good thing. the guy asked a simple question and got insulted for it. would you act like that in real life? gtfo yourself :u: