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Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:16 am
by yamaz
So when you are recording or mixing live, do you set you tempo at 70bpm or 140bpm and WHY?

I've heard a few arguments from both sides so I'd like to continue the debate here ;)

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:23 am
by honey-d
140 bpm. Just more room to place drum hits and stuff

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:35 am
by Hellomadame
Same as the post above me !

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:38 am
by deadly_habit
wha? recording or mixing setting a tempo? do you mean production?
hell ill go from half to double the tempo i intend depending on the ammount of control and detail i want
mixing the tempo of the tune dictates it

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:46 am
by grooki
yamaz wrote:So when you are recording or mixing live, do you set you tempo at 70bpm or 140bpm and WHY?

I've heard a few arguments from both sides so I'd like to continue the debate here ;)

I don't really get this question... They are the same tempo. You could add in your question 35 bpm, 280 bpm, 560bpm. And this only applies if you have quantise on.

if quantise is on you might want to go to 140 or higher to beable to get the detail you like.

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:09 am
by yamaz
grooki wrote:
yamaz wrote:So when you are recording or mixing live, do you set you tempo at 70bpm or 140bpm and WHY?

I've heard a few arguments from both sides so I'd like to continue the debate here ;)

I don't really get this question... They are the same tempo. You could add in your question 35 bpm, 280 bpm, 560bpm. And this only applies if you have quantise on.

if quantise is on you might want to go to 140 or higher to beable to get the detail you like.

No they're not the same tempo at all, one is twice as fast. So you can either use 140 and half time your drum beat or use 70 bpm with normal time drum beat(since that's the real tempo of your drums) and then double time your synth and base lines.

Yes I mean with production or dj'ing.

I personally prefer to use 70bpm to write the drum pattern as when I hear that metronome click at the 140bpm rate I can't get the right groove.

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:17 am
by deadly_habit
it's just a level of detail, you can make 70 bpm stuff at 140, 280, 560 etc
like grooki said it's the level of quantization detail
and riddle me this if it's twice as face as you say, how are you djing a 140bpm track at 70 bpm :lol:

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:34 am
by Brisance
yamaz wrote: Yes I mean with production or dj'ing.
How would you "set" a tempo for djing!?!?

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:43 am
by Depone
I know a few people who produce at 280, i personally dont see the point, cause i can just change the grid from 16ths to 24ths. Sorted...

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:04 am
by JFK
Depone wrote:I know a few people who produce at 280, i personally dont see the point, cause i can just change the grid from 16ths to 24ths. Sorted...
Really? Im with you on not seeing the point of this.......

I might try a few at 35.....

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:04 pm
by deadly_habit
Depone wrote:I know a few people who produce at 280, i personally dont see the point, cause i can just change the grid from 16ths to 24ths. Sorted...
glitch
listen to some venetian snares :wink:

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:08 pm
by meaty
ive produced dubstep at 94, 128, 140, doesnt really matter. Doesnt HAVE to be 140bpm.

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:20 pm
by Mortal
i usually program my drums at 280, perfect those with EQing and all,
bounce em out and open that shit up in a 140 for the rest of my track.

its just a nice easy way to get a higher level of detail on the percussion.


i sometimes go to 560 if i want a banging kick roll :P

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:37 pm
by bass_killa
this thread doesnt even need to fucking exsist because there's no dispute. 140. anyone who tries it at 70 is actually a fuckin prick who need killing, cause you can't fill in anuff detail at 70.

so fuck this thread, OP you're a prick for starting this thread

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:41 pm
by therapist
yamaz wrote:
grooki wrote:
yamaz wrote:So when you are recording or mixing live, do you set you tempo at 70bpm or 140bpm and WHY?

I've heard a few arguments from both sides so I'd like to continue the debate here ;)

I don't really get this question... They are the same tempo. You could add in your question 35 bpm, 280 bpm, 560bpm. And this only applies if you have quantise on.

if quantise is on you might want to go to 140 or higher to beable to get the detail you like.

No they're not the same tempo at all, one is twice as fast. So you can either use 140 and half time your drum beat or use 70 bpm with normal time drum beat(since that's the real tempo of your drums) and then double time your synth and base lines.

Yes I mean with production or dj'ing.

I personally prefer to use 70bpm to write the drum pattern as when I hear that metronome click at the 140bpm rate I can't get the right groove.
What?

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:44 pm
by bass_killa
haha, fuckme there's some retards on here. :facepalm:

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:49 pm
by deadly_habit
bass_killa wrote:haha, fuckme there's some retards on here. :facepalm:
0/10

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:57 pm
by bass_killa
deadly habit wrote:
bass_killa wrote:haha, fuckme there's some retards on here. :facepalm:
0/10
is that directed at me?

and you are...?? :roll:

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:58 pm
by deadly_habit
bass_killa wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
bass_killa wrote:haha, fuckme there's some retards on here. :facepalm:
0/10
is that directed at me?

and you are...?? :roll:
0/10

Re: Dubstep - 70 bpm or 140bpm?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:03 pm
by bass_killa
deadly habit wrote:
bass_killa wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
bass_killa wrote:haha, fuckme there's some retards on here. :facepalm:
0/10
is that directed at me?

and you are...?? :roll:
0/10
-1/10