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? When resampling or bouncing basslines
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:09 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
Suppose I am synthesizing/processing and preparing to bounce a bassline OR resampling notes to compose a sequence... any recommendations for where/when to add reverbs? I want to wet the highs and keep lows dry so I split it into 2 or 3 layers most of the time. Wondering if I should add reverb and bounce to audio, or, solo each layer, bounce them seperately, then add verb and bus/comp the layers.
I have tried both routes, and so far I am leaning toward option 2 just because I have altiverb6 and it sounds a lot nicer than Reason's RV7000 imo. (using reason synths.)
I am just wondering what other folks choose , I guess i don't want to resample something with verb tails because they would cut off when i change notes..
Re: ? When resampling or bouncing basslines
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:41 pm
by hurlingdervish
well you said it yourself you dont want to cut off the tails. sometimes that sounds good when you apply new envelopes on the slices you recorded however. so for you it would be best to save reverb for later, either that or sample larger chunks and save the tails
Re: ? When resampling or bouncing basslines
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:06 pm
by alex_l
I would personally never bounce with reverb because there is much more flexibility if you keep it separate - but it depends entirely on your style of working and i sometimes resample stuff and delete it, only to re-use in a different track.
Re: ? When resampling or bouncing basslines
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:44 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
alex_l wrote:I would personally never bounce with reverb because there is much more flexibility if you keep it separate - but it depends entirely on your style of working and i sometimes resample stuff and delete it, only to re-use in a different track.
Very true
Thnx for the replies, I have just been wondering what the norm is for others
Re: ? When resampling or bouncing basslines
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:51 am
by In The Shadows
alex_l wrote:I would personally never bounce with reverb because there is much more flexibility if you keep it separate - but it depends entirely on your style of working and i sometimes resample stuff and delete it, only to re-use in a different track.
yeah definatly, I never bounce with reverb. It becomes messy when you then want to add another effect on it after the bounce, even just an eq can bring out some horrible mud. Never add reverb before a bounce, bounce as loud as possible without clipping anything, when in doubt leave a little too much low end and high end as its easier to get rid of them later than replace them. Those are the things I tend to keep in mind when bouncing, but like you say everyone has their own way of doing things.
Re: ? When resampling or bouncing basslines
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:38 am
by amphibian
Don't negate however that a very small amount of reverb actually helps to thicken a bassline - and doesn't give a reverb sound at all. Small space reverb with very little time (say only 20-25ms) is enough.
Re: ? When resampling or bouncing basslines
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:19 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
^^ I do this with kick drums a lot... I'm always finding my kicks sound liek shit unless i send a little bit of it to a deep verb... usually use Reason's RV7000 "Kick Bomb" setting, reduce the decay (cause it's infinite on that setting ;p)
Adds much needed body. Haven't done this much with basses
thx again for chiming in I appreciate it
Re: ? When resampling or bouncing basslines
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:41 pm
by amphibian
-[2]DAY_- wrote:^^ I do this with kick drums a lot... I'm always finding my kicks sound liek shit unless i send a little bit of it to a deep verb... usually use Reason's RV7000 "Kick Bomb" setting, reduce the decay (cause it's infinite on that setting ;p)
Adds much needed body. Haven't done this much with basses
thx again for chiming in I appreciate it
Get some better samples, or layer your kick with a sub hit as well - gives it a hell-crushing impact!