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Sampling movies...

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:56 pm
by offerman
What's the best way to sample audio from a movie? Fyi, I am running Ableton Live 8 and Pro Tools 7.4. Also what should I do about the resampling (since the movie audio is 44.8khz)?

Sorry if this has already been asked somewhere...

Thanks!

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:00 am
by Luke Baewer
im not sure about sampling straight from a DVD, but you can get samples from you tube videos, considering that the movie IS on youtube. There are tons of youtube to mp3 converters out there. just convert it and go wild. sorry i couldnt have offered more help than this.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:03 am
by deadly_habit

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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:10 am
by dirty d
i use adobe audition.. run the dvd on ur pc/mac n press record.. simples :)

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:46 am
by paravrais
Audacity

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:27 am
by Kaz1983
Luke Baewer wrote:im not sure about sampling straight from a DVD, but you can get samples from you tube videos, considering that the movie IS on youtube. There are tons of youtube to mp3 converters out there. just convert it and go wild. sorry i couldnt have offered more help than this.
This.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:53 pm
by In The Shadows
Im not a fan of all that recording carry on. You can download free programs like DVD audio extractor, which is what I use atm. Rips the entire film into 48,000/24 wav files, 1 for each chapter on the DVD. For 5.1 surround sound you can get it to rip each of the 6 channels to an individual mono wav, which can isolate certain sounds from background noise but also messes up some sounds where half the frequency range is being sent somewhere else. I listen back to the entire film and make a rough chop every time something interesting comes along then save em all as mini chunks to be kept and sampled from later as needed.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:52 am
by mcpable
Or buy an RCA to 1/8" audio plug converter, put it on the end of your DVD player's RCA cable (you can probably get one that connects both left and right into one) and plug it into your computer and record. I think this would probably be higher quality than youtube.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:45 am
by JigSaw
paravrais wrote:Audacity
+1

+2

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can't be easier than this. audacity will allow you to see the sound file as it records, the way i find easiest, is pop on the thing i am sampling, dvd is REALLY easy, audacity will record straight from whats going to your speakers (stereo mix), so just play the lone movie, crank up or down your recording levels so you don't have any visual clipping in audacity, get it as close as you can to filling out on the loudest part of the sample.

after that,
1.cut the sample properly
2.ctrl-a
3.effects, amplify - if it lets you amplify .1 or .3 or whatever do it up (NO CLIPPING)
4.export as wav
5.load to sampler

bam.

edit-

p.s, don't use youtube quality in a soundclip unless you are not serious about production, unless there is absolutely no alternative. or you like crap noise. but if all you're doing is just putting more of the dubstep crap that is saturating youtube, then "youtube FTW" and have a great day.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:38 am
by Miniature
I know a lot of producers who Rip stuff off youtube, i am becoming one also. If you EQ the sound right it doesent sound too bad, saves having to play through a whole DVD audio when you can just grab the small speech you need.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:02 am
by JigSaw
i can just click the part in the movie, then i'm getting something alot closer to 1.14kbps audio and i know that if i'm orchestrating an 18 instrument piece then i won't get low quality fuzz chewing up whatever headroom i have

simplistic stuff you have the opposite problem, whereas you can hear directly the quality of the sample (if its simplistic enough)

i think taking samples off youtube would work for the right job i guess, i'm just rigid like that

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:06 pm
by trike12
throw the dvd you want to sample from in your dvd player run the red (right) and white (left) to an input on your dj mixer and just record as if you were recording a mix.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:42 pm
by symmetricalsounds
Miniature wrote:IIf you EQ the sound right it doesent sound too bad,
not really the kinda benchmark you want to use with samples though. if you're not all that serious then fair enough but if you are serious and then put samples in that don't sound "too bad" then you have the shit in = shit out issue.

personally i wanna use samples that i think sound really good rather than not too bad.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:17 pm
by In The Shadows
trike12 wrote:throw the dvd you want to sample from in your dvd player run the red (right) and white (left) to an input on your dj mixer and just record as if you were recording a mix.
JigSaw wrote:
paravrais wrote:Audacity
+1

+2

+3

can't be easier than this. audacity will allow you to see the sound file as it records, the way i find easiest, is pop on the thing i am sampling, dvd is REALLY easy, audacity will record straight from whats going to your speakers (stereo mix), so just play the lone movie, crank up or down your recording levels so you don't have any visual clipping in audacity, get it as close as you can to filling out on the loudest part of the sample.

after that,
1.cut the sample properly
2.ctrl-a
3.effects, amplify - if it lets you amplify .1 or .3 or whatever do it up (NO CLIPPING)
4.export as wav
5.load to sampler

bam.

edit-

p.s, don't use youtube quality in a soundclip unless you are not serious about production, unless there is absolutely no alternative. or you like crap noise. but if all you're doing is just putting more of the dubstep crap that is saturating youtube, then "youtube FTW" and have a great day.

If you guys had an album on cd you wanted to get some samples from would you go about it in the same way? Or would you just rip the cd to wavs in wmp?

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:21 pm
by circusjam
its as easy as downloading audacity, selecting stereo mix as your mic input, pressing play in whatever media player you want use, then pressing record in audacity. sooooooooo simple

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:10 pm
by In The Shadows
circusjam wrote:its as easy as downloading audacity, selecting stereo mix as your mic input, pressing play in whatever media player you want use, then pressing record in audacity. sooooooooo simple
...or just downloading a dvd audio ripper and pressing rip, which is twice as simple again and gives you a better quality result.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:19 pm
by circusjam
by In The Shadows » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:10 pm

circusjam wrote:
its as easy as downloading audacity, selecting stereo mix as your mic input, pressing play in whatever media player you want use, then pressing record in audacity. sooooooooo simple


...or just downloading a dvd audio ripper and pressing rip, which is twice as simple again and gives you a better quality result.
but wouldnt you have to rip the whole dvd? plus stereo mix gives you a losless output to your recoring device. surely if you only wanted a sample of one part of the dvd audacity would be quicker? i may be wrong tho

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:45 pm
by symmetricalsounds
circusjam wrote:
by In The Shadows » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:10 pm

circusjam wrote:
its as easy as downloading audacity, selecting stereo mix as your mic input, pressing play in whatever media player you want use, then pressing record in audacity. sooooooooo simple


...or just downloading a dvd audio ripper and pressing rip, which is twice as simple again and gives you a better quality result.
but wouldnt you have to rip the whole dvd? plus stereo mix gives you a losless output to your recoring device. surely if you only wanted a sample of one part of the dvd audacity would be quicker? i may be wrong tho
defo quicker with audacity n just recording that little bit.

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:37 am
by deadly_habit
youtube is great especially when using older movies that pristine 24bit etc quality is overkill, yall peeps just need to use youtube downloader prog in best quality
the link i gave is for format factory which is an anything to anything converter program, and if using dl'd avi divx etc lets you choose segments to rip which is handy for audio, and also includes a dvd ripper, but hey free sucks, use your patch cable and audacity solutions that may introduce cable noise....

Re: Sampling movies...

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:14 am
by symmetricalsounds
deadly habit wrote:, but hey free sucks, use your patch cable and audacity solutions that may introduce cable noise....
audacity is free too...you don't need a patch cable with audacity to record the stereo mix so no cable noise is introduced.