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Digital Downloads and the future of Dubstep

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:25 pm
by thesimonpure
OK - I'm sure this has been talked about...but I'm too lazy to search more than a few minutes. I realize I'm opening up myself to be hated on - but I've got to ask.

Why do we have to wait so long for mp3's of the latest sik plates?

I get why vinyl is considered tops...but most of these tewns are made digitally on computers anyway. I realize that I'm insatiable and that good things come to those who wait - but I'm tired of fast forwarding my one track mixes to hear "punks" or "crunked up". There are a lot of us who don't do vinyl and I don't think we should be punished. (God I'm a whiner)

I want to spread the love - Dubstep is the greatest. Very few people know about it where I come from. But I'm not a DJ, and don't have the want to get into vinyl. I want all of the incredible artists to get paid for their work. Should I have to drop $100 for 5 plates?

I gotz luv for all the dj's and producers "keepin it real" - but what do you think would happen if everything was available to purchase digitally right from the get go?

Peace

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:36 pm
by oopu
import mon, exclusive mon, straight from J to me, oh fat larry someone musta skanked you---ding dong ding ding dong

Re: Digital Downloads and the future of Dubstep

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:40 pm
by autonomic
TheSimonPure wrote:I'm sure this has been talked about...but I'm too lazy to search more than a few minutes.
your problem and solution right there.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:44 pm
by thesimonpure
eye C!

Please don't take my question as disrepektin' the forum.

Just a question.

I guess I get the exclusive thang' - It's just hard for me to wait. I'm like a kid in the candystore with a pocket full of money - but the owner tells me to come back in 6 months.

Peace

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:58 pm
by dermike
I decided to release the first Redvolume release on vinyl and digital at the same time, and so far it's only the vinyl that sells good... so probably not gonna care as much for digital when releasing the next one if this trend continues. ;)

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:01 pm
by ozeb
Records are tangible objects. MP3's are digital files. Labels like to leave a window between physical and electronic releases so as to create a slight barrier to piracy...

In order to pirate a record, someone would have to digitize a 12". Granted that's easy to do these days but luckily most deejays buying 12s respect the artists and will not circulate their work. I know a few friends who digitize their records just for CDJ convenience but would never THINK of handing those tracks to anyone to play without purchase.

That's my theory anyway (and the resulting assumption of a discussion we had had with the Pressing Issues crew).

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:04 pm
by thesimonpure
Very insightful...

I guess gettin' it now.

Thanks for the response.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:18 pm
by seckle
please please please....use the search function.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:19 pm
by autonomic
sorry, it's just that this has been discussed at length several times and you'd do better to read through what people have already taken the time to write than start it from scratch again. no disrespect intended but that's what archives and search buttons are there for.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:22 pm
by thesimonpure
Point taken...

Thanks again

Peace :o

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:25 pm
by seckle
there are nearly 15 massive threads about mp3's and dubplates. it's like watching paint dry.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:27 pm
by autonomic
:lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:30 pm
by thesimonpure
tanks fellas...

I hereby vow to never waste the time my bruz' on da forum again...

I will search dilligently for questions I have...

I will not be a debbie downer...

Rispekt!

Simon

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:37 am
by bob crunkhouse
yeh this has been talked about before, and it does make sense.

what dosent make sense though is when a tune is officially released on vinyl and it dosent get an mp3 release, theres so many tunes that aint avaliable for non vinyl buyers, i dont understand it, its good for the labels (money) and good for the listeners (happiness!)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:38 am
by ytee
seckle wrote:there are nearly 15 massive threads about mp3's and dubplates. it's like watching paint dry.
:lol: :lol: so true!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:20 am
by bunzer0
dermike wrote:I decided to release the first Redvolume release on vinyl and digital at the same time, and so far it's only the vinyl that sells good... so probably not gonna care as much for digital when releasing the next one if this trend continues. ;)

clever ad :-)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:26 am
by skrewface
unF! :x

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:59 am
by dermike
BunZer0 wrote:
dermike wrote:I decided to release the first Redvolume release on vinyl and digital at the same time, and so far it's only the vinyl that sells good... so probably not gonna care as much for digital when releasing the next one if this trend continues. ;)

clever ad :-)
Heh, it's true though. So far there's really no economic reason to do it, plus it's already been pirated. :/
..but you also now I'm very impatient. ;)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:10 am
by Steve AC23
you cant hug mp3s.

case closed.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:59 am
by kidkut
Signing up with digital services is not as easy as as some of you may think, there is alot of paper work/contracts behind the scenes. Take into account that digital downloads is some thing you have to build up over a long time, i.e. before people realise you do it etc you get very minimal payout from them (if it ever increases at all) compared to the amount of effort to sign up.

To give you some idea (this is not the same for all services mind):

Contracts to be read over/signed
Some require ISRC codes, which means you must be signed up with the PPL (which some smaller labels arent)
Track meta data to fill out and return
Tracks to send with artwork.

If you take into account all of the above done via royal mail in alot of cases (why they dont all have ftp amazes me) and then see say £10 a month coming back.. you can see why people might not be arsed...

Anway, i'm in the process of signing up with 12 services at the mo (2 are done www.beatsdigital.com and www.digital-tunes.net) as im looking at it as more getting things into the ether and raising awareness of the label as opposed to making any money from it.

/edit
Although as i know some of the people from more established labels, this can turn into a good revenue stream, it just takes a while to build.