what do you think about ableton for making beats?

thierry_le_dj · Post by **thierry_le_dj** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:11 pm

i've been thinking about swithching DAW's for a while but am going to go with something that i can afford
to be honest i wish i had a Mac and Logic but i know can't afford any of it

what do you think about ableton for making beats?

and which other DAW's would you recommend for p.c ?

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:15 pm

pretty much any daw is gonna be perfectly capable of making beats to be honest, ableton does come with everything you need though.

id recommend cubase but unless you are gonna be working mostly in audio you will need a sampler of some description too.

why not get demos and try them out and see which you prefer?

3za · Post by **3za** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:17 pm

what are you using now? and why do you want to change?

Commercial systems

* Ableton Live
* ACID Pro
* Adobe Audition
* Cakewalk Sonar
* Chaotic Daw
* Digital Performer
* FL Studio
* GarageBand
* Logic Pro
* MAGIX Samplitude
* MAGIX Sequoia
* Mixcraft
* MU.LAB
* n-Track Studio
* Orion Platinum
* PreSonus Studio One
* Pro Tools
* Propellerhead Reason
* REAPER
* Record
* Renoise
* Soundtrack Pro
* Steinberg Cubase
* Steinberg Nuendo
* Tracktion
* Usine
* Zynewave Podium
* Z-Maestro

Free and open source systems

* Ardour
* LMMS
* MusE
* Qtractor
* Rosegarden
* Traverso DAW

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:18 pm

All daws do essentially the same thing. A sequencer is a sequencer is a sequencer is a sequencer. A piano roll is a piano roll is a piano roll is a piano roll. A flanger... its a flanger...

Question becomes what color do you want everything? Do you windowed or non windowed workflow? Where do you want your effect rack positioned on screen?

Your making great tunes on whatever you use already man. IDK why youd wanna set yourself back to learning a whole new daw when your just getting to where I wanna mix your stuff

thierry_le_dj · Post by **thierry_le_dj** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:26 pm

i use FL studio's i always get told my beats sound's cheaps,sound's shit and don't even have to tell some people i use FL and they already guess it by the way it sounds..
all tho i spent enough $$ on sample packs on loop master and vst's they still say its sound shit its actually giving me the shits
i just want to make good sounding beats

3za · Post by **3za** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:32 pm

thierry_le_dj wrote:i use FL studio's i always get told my beats sound's cheaps,sound's shit and don't even have to tell some people i use FL and they already guess it by the way it sounds..
all tho i spent enough $$ on sample packs on loop master and vst's they still say its sound shit its actually giving me the shits
i just want to make good sounding beats

might be what your monitoring with. as Basic said DAW's are just a different way of working. i don't believe this different DAW's sound better shit.

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:36 pm

3za wrote:
thierry_le_dj wrote:i use FL studio's i always get told my beats sound's cheaps,sound's shit and don't even have to tell some people i use FL and they already guess it by the way it sounds..
all tho i spent enough $$ on sample packs on loop master and vst's they still say its sound shit its actually giving me the shits
i just want to make good sounding beats
might be what your monitoring with. as Basic said DAW's are just a different way of working. i don't believe this different DAW's sound better shit.

Its a load of shit... Though, Fruity limiter and the fruity synths... Id be willing to believe those are colored. But meh. He even said he's using non standard plugins

... so thats not valid. Hell, if hes using non standard synths in plugins, its CANT be the DAW's fault. That would mean the engine itsself would be colored... which isnt the case at all.

thierry_le_dj · Post by **thierry_le_dj** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:48 pm

hmm not sure but i also have a stock p.c sound card nothing to flashy could that be the case?

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:51 pm

thierry_le_dj wrote:hmm not sure but i also have a stock p.c sound card nothing to flashy could that be the case?

Renders = Done through processor. Soundcards only handle playback.

And dont blame your processor either, Im on a p3.

Recessive Trait · Post by **Recessive Trait** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:04 pm

thierry, i love you buddy but you need to learn how to search...

and anybody who says they "know" something has been written in fl, especially your work, is not only jealous but speaking out of their ass.

FL Studio forever!

staticcast · Post by **staticcast** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:21 pm

With no personal offense intended - as I haven't actually listened to your stuff - the answer to "my beats sound like shit, is it because i'm using xyz DAW?" is, almost without exception, "no, your beats sound like shit because you need to learn how to produce".

3za · Post by **3za** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:33 pm

Recessive Trait wrote:FL Studio forever!

thierry_le_dj · Post by **thierry_le_dj** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:37 pm

Sweet everyone!
maybe i''ll just have to spend more time on
my sound and learn how to polish it more to make it sound better
or something will look into it.

djake · Post by **djake** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:19 pm

the tune in your sig doesnt sound cheap, if you hadnt have said fruity loops i wouldnt of been able to guess it was made in there.

ableton is sick thou, but at the end of the day...if you like using fruity loops, and can do everything you want in there, USE IT!

Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:16 pm

thierry_le_dj wrote:i use FL studio's i always get told my beats sound's cheaps,sound's shit and don't even have to tell some people i use FL and they already guess it by the way it sounds..
all tho i spent enough $$ on sample packs on loop master and vst's they still say its sound shit its actually giving me the shits
i just want to make good sounding beats

r u good at mixing?

u could really improve ur sound ... i have a friend who uses flstudio and makes people believe he's on old school gear... seriously

maybe i''ll just have to spend more time on
my sound and learn how to polish it more to make it sound better

that! that! and that!

globalbabylon · Post by **globalbabylon** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:08 pm

Ableton is the shit. Although the sound quality will be pretty much the same no matter the DAW, I find Ableton to be the easiest to learn and use properly. I'm sure that many people have a different opinion, but for me, after playing through a great number of other programs, Ableton was the way to go.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:14 pm

I hustled hard & brought a mac... just for logic!!
glad I did, shit just went forward!!
abletons algood, the workflow was abit of a headfuck for me tho.

ya can make some nice sounds, a bro of mine was making some killa shit, he got a mac & now is massacring his tracks!

do what ya need too, everything has its bonuses ay!!

!!chea

corpu5 · Post by **corpu5** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:27 pm

do it man ableton's sick. Its just as good as anything else out there. I think the workflow trumps logics, the sound design potential in ableton's unreal....just look out for some video's on the web. the native plug ins in logic are probably better than ableton's but lets be frank yer? Who gives a shit....im sure the difference in quality is marginal, but you know neeks and fanboys man, they'll fight over the most stupid things. Im pretty sure most people use third party plug ins anyways so the whole arguments a load of tosh anyways regardless of whichever DAW you produce on

truth be told mate, if you're a shit producer....your DAW aint gonna make you sound better .... stick to what suites you best, be it ableton/logic/windows sound recorder.

peace

krispy · Post by **krispy** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:32 pm

What do I think about Ableton...

Well I think it is awesome and it seemed easier to learn than other DAWs

netrik · Post by **netrik** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:58 pm

Ableton is the Shit. Don't think I could ever switch to something else..

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