Is it too late?

[hutyluty]

The scene seems saturated- just looking across the Music and Discussion boards shows how many established artists around doing their thing, is there really anywhere new to go? The only new people seeming to come through nowadays are all seemingly ridiculously talented (looking at you James Blake) or making wobbly jump up

It is very hard to get known unless you are doing something wildly different, or know someone already established, I know none of my songs are in any way original.

In documentaries done around the time of 05/06 Skream in particular highlights the saturation of the DnB and Garage scenes as being one of the prime reasons for starting to produce garage. Have we reached the same position now?

[Basic A]

Nah, I dont think so... Im nobody and I feel like people are more then happy to give me a shot if I put myself out there... Yeah, you have to do your own thing, but thats art, not just a scene man... noone wants to buy a replica of Starry Night, they want too see your own interpretation of the same landscape/tree... get me?

And dont think about these things before you get into it man... if you wanna produce dubstep, produce dubstep, if you wanna make 16/39 time 808kicks and juke vocals, idgaf, just do it. DOnt worry what people are gonna think or if its gonna sell... like... cmon man wtf? Skream didnt ask himself if itd sell before he wrote Midnight request, cause if he did its unlikely hed have wrote it... Coki wasnt a bit worried about record sales when he laid spongebob I promise... you think pinch was worried about sales when he put that silence on the qawalli vip intro? Nah... its art man, do what feels right and as logn as you do, SOMEONE will connect man.

No matter what your message, someone will relate.

BTW man great concepts in your sig tune, read the mixing and mastering thread, quit sweating this marketting stuff and just focus on doing whatever you wanna do and doing it right, youll go far.

[JBE]

I think at some point any producer will think, "Is anyone going to like this when I'm done?". Chances are, if you like it, other people will as well. I have to agree with Basic A here, and say don't worry about saturation of the market or scene, just make what you want to make. Dubstep is so relatively new that it still has a long way to go. It may seem saturated but I don't think it is at all. I can't imagine what this genre will sound like in 10 years, but I guarantee I'll still be listening to it then.

Give yourself a chance before you say, "Fuck all", and walk away. Listening to your track tells me you have an idea of what it is you are doing and want to do. Go with it. Sure it will take time, but anything worth doing doesn't come easy. Worry about honing your skills first, then worry about the market and where you stand in it.

[-[2]DAY_-]

I' started feeling the same way as the OP as soon as I got a little bit hip to the dubstep scene. Everyone produces and/or DJs... but / so , from where I sit.. those people are continuing to network and perform cuz they enjoy one another and themselves and their crowds. As far as commercial success goes, I'd reckon the markets are supersaturated, and the biz is super competitive. That being said, no matter how saturated it gets, if you're competitive enough you can break through and develop a following.

I tend to think that if an artist hasn't struck upon a new way of arranging/composing with their Yaaa Yaaaaaa's and wubs and bleeps then they didn't need to make the track to begin with, cause we have too many dubs to listen to in the first place. But if you have a tune to make, make it by all means.

On another note, I've felt the hip hop production/dj scene has been oversaturated for decades, but young fresh fellows have continued to build careers on it, which is exactly what I aim to do. It's really hard and competitive, and one of the downsides is that I definitely do need to step back and say "will this succeed? does it need ________ in order to work my target market?" And I don't get to say "hey, what do I wanna do wit this thing" and just do it cuz i have wacky taste.

[hasezwei]

i personally think for me it's too late, yes. whenever i find myself fiddling around on my DAW and thinking "hey let's do some dubstep or drum n bass" i end up with a loop and think "nah, someone else already did that better than me".
i had that same thing with breakcore, which is why i turned to dubstep in the first place but it looks like by the time i'll be confident/skilled enough to send out demos or put up full tracks on soundcloud i'll have turned to yet another genre.
but lately when i try and do stuff i don't know shit about like funky or techno or hiphop i end up having loads of fun and simply not giving a shit if this actually classifies as anything i intended it to be.

so just try and do your best to not think about other peoples' music when producing. just imagine you're on a pacific island making music for the native people to skank out to. if in the end it can be mixed with dubstep -> success!

[krispy]

i personally think for me it's too late, yes. whenever i find myself fiddling around on my DAW and thinking "hey let's do some dubstep or drum n bass" i end up with a loop and think "nah, someone else already did that better than me".
i had that same thing with breakcore, which is why i turned to dubstep in the first place but it looks like by the time i'll be confident/skilled enough to send out demos or put up full tracks on soundcloud i'll have turned to yet another genre.
but lately when i try and do stuff i don't know shit about like funky or techno or hiphop i end up having loads of fun and simply not giving a shit if this actually classifies as anything i intended it to be.

so just try and do your best to not think about other peoples' music when producing. just imagine you're on a pacific island making music for the native people to skank out to. if in the end it can be mixed with dubstep -> success!

hmm sounds to me like you are producing for the wrong reasons
you should just be making the music you want to make because you like it, obviously someone is going to be better than you at it
just make whatever you feel like and try and do a good job and make it your own

[hasezwei]

i personally think for me it's too late, yes. whenever i find myself fiddling around on my DAW and thinking "hey let's do some dubstep or drum n bass" i end up with a loop and think "nah, someone else already did that better than me".
i had that same thing with breakcore, which is why i turned to dubstep in the first place but it looks like by the time i'll be confident/skilled enough to send out demos or put up full tracks on soundcloud i'll have turned to yet another genre.
but lately when i try and do stuff i don't know shit about like funky or techno or hiphop i end up having loads of fun and simply not giving a shit if this actually classifies as anything i intended it to be.

so just try and do your best to not think about other peoples' music when producing. just imagine you're on a pacific island making music for the native people to skank out to. if in the end it can be mixed with dubstep -> success!

hmm sounds to me like you are producing for the wrong reasons
you should just be making the music you want to make because you like it, obviously someone is going to be better than you at it
just make whatever you feel like and try and do a good job and make it your own

maybe you're right, but i suppose i'm just fed up with dubstep for the time being. it's not inspiring me anymore the way it used to in the last years. when i first heard it my mind was completely blown because as a breakcore listener i had assumed that every possibility within electronic music has already been explored and there's nothing left, then i heard dubstep and my head was full of ideas. now after 3 years of listening to it mainly i feel the same again, then i heard kode9 and LV's "bad" and my mind was blown yet again.
to make things short: the thrill is gone, lately i gravitate towards lower bpm so why should i force myself to stick with it?

[WeedKeepa]

It's never too late my friend.

I produce solely due to the fact that I enjoy it.
I'm at University so unfortunately I don't get to spend as much time as I'd like producing.
If you take it too seriously and don't enjoy it, then I find mixing thing's up helps, like creating some DNB or recently I made some Donk (Don't ask) purely for the jokes. But the thing is, I enjoyed making that more than I have any other of my tracks. It's weird, but when you come back to Dubstep, you'll have tons of ideas floating around in your head

[Sharmaji]

the space is there; it's up to you to make it. think of the tunes that everyone rallied around and thus created copycats: night, spongebob, claptrap....

make your own sound and rep it HARD, believing in it 100%, and see where it takes you. Passivity doesn't get you anywhere.

tho i feel you on a bunch of the points: were i just hearing what's popular in dubstep today, i wouldn't be involved in it.

[deadly_habit]

were i just hearing what's popular in dubstep today, i wouldn't be involved in it.

amen
i gave up on checking and posting in the spam errr dubs forum and feedback/wip threads for that very reason

[krispy]

I don't think my songs are very good but I like making them and trying to get better

[-[2]DAY_-]

I don't think my songs are very good but I like making them and trying to get better

[skanky beats]

its never too late, just keep making music and enjoy it. One day your tunes will get recognition be it big or small if you just keep making tunes and having fun doing it