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Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision bass

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:07 pm
by team7even
I've been making (attempting) Dubstep for a while now since I stopped making Grime beats. I put in kicks, snares, subs, synths, maybe sometimes a vocal but my tracks still sound kinda empty. Any tips on making them sound more full.

Dont worry about using really technical terms cos I can understand most of them an I'm willing to do some home work.

Also apologies if I've come across as disrespectful/speaking in a bad tone.

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:16 pm
by samurai
you have greatly offended my mother.

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:20 pm
by team7even
Im gonna lol even though im not sure if youre being serious or not.

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:29 pm
by hayze99
Alright, off the top of my head, even though I'm seriously offended by your tone.

-Stack shit. Stack drums, stack synths and pan them in different directions, etc. Stack different snares on top of each other, even with other percussion - chop that shit up!
-Use panning creatively - serious - it's important. Fill in spots and leave spots open for different effects. Use a stereo imager.
-Reverb, Delay - tends to add space and warmth, but be very very careful with this - it has the potential to turn your tracks into mush
-Spectral imaging - use a program to find the blank spots on the spectrum, edit as needed. A lot of people frown on these, saying you need to use your ears, but you need to start somewhere.

You're asking a very broad question, since it's pretty interpretive, but those are some little tips. Remember not to go overkill with any of these or you'll end up with the opposite product - a complete mess that's too full and doesn't have any room to breath.
Good luck.

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:37 pm
by Basic A
It takes alot more to make a next to make a masterpiece out of 4 items then it does to make an average mess out of 100...

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:49 pm
by team7even
Fanku for the help

Sorry for offending every one,

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:56 pm
by Basic A
team7even wrote:Fanku for the help

Sorry for offending every one,
Your way to paranoid dude you didnt offend and I dont see how you could of lol...

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:56 pm
by team7even
also to save every one the pointlessness of a new topic -

Any tips on remixing?Soundcloud

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:00 pm
by Basic A
team7even wrote:also to save every one the pointlessness of a new topic -

Any tips on remixing?Soundcloud
be waaay more specific -w-

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:11 pm
by therook
Try adding some delay and reverb

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:04 pm
by Recessive Trait
op: i like your comments on your own track there. way to sell yourself.

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:16 pm
by DJ Crackle
Recessive Trait wrote:op: i like your comments on your own track there. way to sell yourself.

hahah I did that on one of my tracks but from my own SC.
:D

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:43 pm
by therapist
Basic A wrote:It takes alot more to make a next to make a masterpiece out of 4 items then it does to make an average mess out of 100...
Say what?

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:13 pm
by therook
therapist wrote:
Basic A wrote:It takes alot more to make a next to make a masterpiece out of 4 items then it does to make an average mess out of 100...
Say what?
Take for instance modern rock music. The drum kit has only toms/ bd/ snare/ hats/ cymbals/ crashes etc. The key is using what you got to sound good instead of adding a bazillion shakers and highhats to fill in the sound.

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:19 pm
by deadly_habit
fills, reverb, incidentals, open your tune in a spectral and see where the frequency content is lying and where it is lacking and see if harmonics may help that or not so tight eqing etc
hell a verb buss on your drums subtly used can do wonders for started

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:57 pm
by team7even
Your way to paranoid dude you didnt offend and I dont see how you could of lol...
LOLZ all round I was only joking, I finally figured out how i want my music to sound, Im gonna try forget about teh wobbles.

Also, this is the best dubstep related Facebook group i have ever seen.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=1 ... opic=10757

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:05 am
by DJ Crackle
team7even wrote:try forget about teh wobbles.
O_O

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:41 am
by therook
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Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:08 pm
by team7even
therook wrote:Image
How'd you figure?

Re: Im a new guy - Dont worry, I dont want Datsik/Excision b

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:09 pm
by therook
Check out the funtcase production masterclass thread. There are 2 vids posted there where he goes into some detail on how he fills out his drum tracks. I picked up a couple good tips. The Rusko producer masterclass is also a good watch.