Is it true that...

[mickey raus]

...It's illegal to treat Cancer in the United States any other way than surgery, chemo therapy, or radiation therapy?

triggered by discussions around this documentary:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7594988246#

[brent]

i'm just commenting on what i've heard without checking anything. the story i remember was about a teenager that wanted alternative therapies, a la organic food and vitamins or whatever. he wasn't 18. the parents got in trouble. if you're 18 and you don't want to go to the hospital, i don't believe anyone can make you.

[wormcode]

I can't view the video from here, what is it exactly?

Maybe illegal for a licensed doctor to do so, but not the patient. I know from family experiences. They will do a lot to change your mind and tell you what they think is better but it's still up to you if you want to use chemo or sweat the cancer out in a sauna in your back yard. Some doctors especially seem offended or even disgusted by alternative treatment. Some people will only trust what they were taught in school and are very hesitant to take new things seriously. I don't think insurance companies cover alternative treatments though.

To make it "illegal" for someone that is competent to choose how to care for themselves would be completely fucked.

From what Brent said, there may be issues with children and minors whose parents want alternative treatment exclusively, I'm not sure, but surely it would be legal as long as they are within their rights... like religious reasons, rather than just being lazy or not caring about treatment.

[mickey raus]

how the parents got in trouble (who caused them troubles and on what grounds)?

[wormcode]

Someone would probably report to child protective services for negligence. It's pretty easy to have your children taken away these days.

[noam]

its pretty stupid to let them die of cancer when they can be cured

[mickey raus]

dope!

so if you don't know better, after giving you cancer with their toxic foods, there is no chance the state would support an actual cure?
'cause apart from surgery, none of the other methods are any better than praying to god (as in self suggestion statistically works better than radiation or chemotherapy i think...)

the video is a documentary about B17, a vitamin known and proven for decades to prevent and even cure cancer, apparently
Based on E.G. Griffin's book "A world without cancer"

[wormcode]

its pretty stupid to let them die of cancer when they can be cured

Depends what you mean by cured though, cancer treatment is hell. Some people might rather let it run its course, if they are adults and mentally fit in my opinion they can do what they want. Children is harder though, they should be allowed to choose for themselves, but if they are very young and don't understand then maybe someone should intervene, especially if it's early stages.

[noam]

now the question:

to watch two back to back episodes of its alwas sunny in philadelphia or watch that documentary?

hmmm.

@ wormcode: unless the cancer is terminal children should be treated. they would thank everyone when they grow up and get to live a life that they wern't denied it even if they hate the treatment.

when people are old or other diseases i believe to be a completely different matter

[wormcode]

Yeah I agree with that.
One of my young cousins was treated early at around 4/5 and he's now healthy at 10.

Bookmarked that doc for later as well.

[mickey raus]

they would thank everyone when they grow up and get to live a life that they wern't denied it even if they hate the treatment

except there are no cures officially accepted, the radio and chemo are just genocide. weak chances they get to thank anyone...

[noam]

they would thank everyone when they grow up and get to live a life that they wern't denied it even if they hate the treatment

except there are no cures officially accepted, the radio and chemo are just genocide. weak chances they get to thank anyone...

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-canc ... s/laetrile

[mickey raus]

they would thank everyone when they grow up and get to live a life that they wern't denied it even if they hate the treatment

except there are no cures officially accepted, the radio and chemo are just genocide. weak chances they get to thank anyone...

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-canc ... s/laetrile

all the counter-arguments there are nicely addressed in the documentary
and based on their history and members' history and, most of all, on their activity, i wouldn't trust FDA even if they told me i am me
until further evidence, this doc makes the most sense of it all

[mickey raus]

also interesting is many of the links meant to support the ideas in noam's page actually go nowhere useful and the NCI site is a bigger joke than the pharma industry itself

[noam]

they would thank everyone when they grow up and get to live a life that they wern't denied it even if they hate the treatment

except there are no cures officially accepted, the radio and chemo are just genocide. weak chances they get to thank anyone...

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-canc ... s/laetrile

all the counter-arguments there are nicely addressed in the documentary
and based on their history and members' history and, most of all, on their activity, i wouldn't trust FDA even if they told me i am me
until further evidence, this doc makes the most sense of it all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdalin

[noam]

best bit of that documentary is the graph showing cancer and 'vitamin' b17 with zero figures on it. amazing.

[AllNightDayDream]

i'm just commenting on what i've heard without checking anything. the story i remember was about a teenager that wanted alternative therapies, a la organic food and vitamins or whatever. he wasn't 18. the parents got in trouble. if you're 18 and you don't want to go to the hospital, i don't believe anyone can make you.

How is that even treatment?

[mickey raus]

i'm just commenting on what i've heard without checking anything. the story i remember was about a teenager that wanted alternative therapies, a la organic food and vitamins or whatever. he wasn't 18. the parents got in trouble. if you're 18 and you don't want to go to the hospital, i don't believe anyone can make you.

How is that even treatment?

???

[mickey raus]

so no us folks know about this law for sure?
there's a minimum of 25% chances you will need it sooner or later, ya kno...

[noam]

no theres probably no need to know the law because most of those who get cancer take the mature decision to get it treated properly and survive so dont need to resort to 'vitamin' b17 alternative therapy