Interesting stuff

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:43 pm

http://www.mediahell.org/costofthings.htm

Interesting info which you may not be aware of, particularly when you consider the demonization of welfare fraudsters in the media

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:51 pm

I always had my suspicions. Right! Down to the JC it is then!
Out to the 2.3 Billion, hope it gets spent on White Ace, "horrible skunk" and dubstep vinyl!

399 Billion on US military!!!!???? U cud buy a effing deathstar for that!!!!

Pentagon LOST 2.3 Trillion, I thought that wasn't even a real number, like a zillion, could give Britain JSA for 560 years!

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:08 pm

that is interesting.

RubiconMan · Post by **RubiconMan** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:09 pm

interestin read.

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:10 pm

YES BUT, I'D STILL GET MY BENEFITS CUT BEFORE BIG BUSNISS HAS TO PAY OUT.

Facts don't mean shit do they? I've known the above figures for years, but it's not like yoiu can go the your local DWP office and recite them and expect a break.

dubsola · Post by **dubsola** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:16 pm

obIwan wrote:I always had my suspicions. Right! Down to the JC it is then!
Out to the 2.3 Billion, hope it gets spent on White Ace, "horrible skunk" and dubstep vinyl!

399 Billion on US military!!!!???? U cud buy a effing deathstar for that!!!!

Pentagon LOST 2.3 Trillion, I thought that wasn't even a real number, like a zillion, could give Britain JSA for 560 years!

"Bulldozer smuggling: 0.15"

WTF? 150 mil for... bulldozer smuggling?

j dub u · Post by **j dub u** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:27 pm

Na trillion is a real figure its a 1'000'000'000'000'000'000'000 I beleive

A Billion Billion Basically

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:33 pm

Love the perspective of it all though

Welfare Fraud - £2 bn

Government Fraud in Whitehall - £5bn

Like to see the advert on the tv for that one

"No if's, no but's - being a shifty mp or civil servant robs £3bn a year more than welfare cheats". Hypocritical stnuc

Pales into insignificance next to the £85bn tax avoidance though

Note as well that the US "defence" budget is pretty much the UK's national revenue from tax, VAT and excise duty.

And shockingly, I seem to remember that all of Africa's debt only amounted to like £10-30bn or so. But then if they weren't indebted to the west, presumably they wouldn't be able to take full advantage of having their public services privatised for western corporate interests and end up paying through the nose for things they already owned.

-blade- · Post by **-blade-** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:37 pm

FIXING THE PLANET lol
cant they use just a patch?

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:58 pm

Imagine if grime MCs chatted about this kind of stuff instead of guns, weed, girls, trainers and clothes! Truth is definitely stranger, and more interesting than fiction!

subframe · Post by **subframe** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:07 pm

Shonky wrote: And shockingly, I seem to remember that all of Africa's debt only amounted to like £10-30bn or so. But then if they weren't indebted to the west, presumably they wouldn't be able to take full advantage of having their public services privatised for western corporate interests and end up paying through the nose for things they already owned.

I assume you've read Confessions of an Economic Hitman?

Should be required reading, it's the nuts and bolts of how government and corporations achieve what we all know they're doing...

__________ · Post by **__________** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:20 pm

Bulldozer smuggling?! Are they for real? hahahaahaha. Interesting but infuriating.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:12 pm

obIwan wrote:Imagine if grime MCs chatted about this kind of stuff instead of guns, weed, girls, trainers and clothes! Truth is definitely stranger, and more interesting than fiction!

Yeah, I do find it a bit wierd how grime and hip hop mc's are like unofficial adverts for various brands. Read that Jay-z and Busta even took money for mentioning Moto, etc in their rhymes - they're clearly a bit more business-minded about these things.

Political mc'ing generally sounds a bit swag (apart from PE naturally).

__________ · Post by **__________** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:14 pm

What about KRS 1 and Jeru the Damaja?

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:23 pm

£10 Bag wrote:What about KRS 1 and Jeru the Damaja?

Always thought that Krs-1 was a bit self rightious and pompous really. He always came off as a little corny to be honest. His flow was never that good any way.
Jeru was never that overtly political.

RubiconMan · Post by **RubiconMan** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:33 pm

KRS-ONE WAS IN EDUTAINER.
all about the

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:41 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:What about KRS 1 and Jeru the Damaja?
Always thought that Krs-1 was a bit self rightious and pompous really. He always came off as a little corny to be honest. His flow was never that good any way

Spot on, but Sound of the Police is still up there. KRS' flow was shite, and to these ears was mostly pretty patronizing - sounded like those teachers that tried to be "down with the kids", but would probably end up with "KRS is a dickhead" written on the side of his Fiat (well at my school anyway)

-blade- · Post by **-blade-** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:29 am

Wiley -treddin on thin ice had some good tracks on it. also 2nd phaze
Purple is spitting bars with content...

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:28 am

-BLADE- wrote:Wiley -treddin on thin ice had some good tracks on it. also 2nd phaze
Purple is spitting bars with content...

I thought for a while that wiley could do a more socially concious thing. Perhaps not full on political though.

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:34 am

Shonky wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:What about KRS 1 and Jeru the Damaja?
Always thought that Krs-1 was a bit self rightious and pompous really. He always came off as a little corny to be honest. His flow was never that good any way
Spot on, but Sound of the Police is still up there. KRS' flow was shite, and to these ears was mostly pretty patronizing - sounded like those teachers that tried to be "down with the kids", but would probably end up with "KRS is a dickhead" written on the side of his Fiat (well at my school anyway)

The sad thing is if Scott La Rock hadn't been shot i reckon BDP would have sunk to the bottom of hip hop obscurity.

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