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hi for the first time im gonna bother buying a decent synth for production.

would you say to go with rob pappens preadator or albino
or native instruments massive?


( Also i know people will say go with what you prefer to use, but im just wanting to know what people have seen the best results from really?)

Well really you can get excellent results from any synth if you know how to work it.

Have you tried the demos for any of those? Predator and Albino are both really good. Predator is kind of a pain to figure out vs Massive which is a lot more user friendly in my opinion. Massive for me is a staple though due to its ease of use and I find myself using it a lot for at least some component of a track.

i'd go for massive if its your first synth. massives the easiest to get into.

Massive for sure. Predator is nice but doesn't have the same amount of modulation control that massive does. I find it easier to get a nastier mid-range bass out of massive than it is with predator... but both are still very good synths. Try the demos of both and see which one you like.

thanks guys, yeah ive been using the massive demo for a while, it is pretty good, i still find myself not getting the defined sound i want though.. why i was wondering about Predator... any ideas from here?

bear in mind that there's only so much you can do inside a synthesizer, and with massive that's already a lot.
almost all "sick" basslines, be it stuff like noisia or "filthy" dubstep like datsik/excision are made from reese sounds, which you can make with virtually every synthesizer out there. the real magic lies in the gradual process of applying small amounts of effects to your sound, exporting that and putting it in a sampler, splitting the frequencies, applying small amounts of effects again, et cetera et cetera.

think of it like a folded steel katana, it's simple small steps repeated over and over again with surgical precision to yield maximum effect.

yeah, guess soo.. only been producing just over a year so guess ive still got a way too go. guess im just gonna have to read up alot more on what youve said.
thanksss

Download the demo software of each one, run through a couple of tutorials on YouTube, then buy the one you like the feel of most.

you know theres more than just 2 synths in this world.

try out gladiator, its a bit like massive but it actually sounds good.

I'm sorry, I think you *meant* to say Alchemy or Circle no?

someone throw me some links please?

comfyman wrote:someone throw me some links please?

Your Google broken?


Alchemy - http://www.camelaudio.com/Alchemy.php

Circle - http://www.futureaudioworkshop.com/circle/

Gladiator - http://www.tone2.com/html/gladiator_2_v ... esize.html

haha, sssh, im trying to do important work, buttt producing keeps distracting meeeeee

life aye?

Here ya go man... http://www.htsti.com/?q=Massive+or+Predator

Demos demos demos.

How powerful is your computer? If weak, get albino, if strong, get massive. Gladiator sounds good, but you should definitely NOT install the legit version. Buy it, but you may consider using the crack because it is less invasive to your system. This is of course, illegal.

comfyman wrote:haha, sssh, im trying to do important work, buttt producing keeps distracting meeeeee

life aye?

Wait...... You produce BUTTS???? Gross.

nowaysj wrote:Demos demos demos.

How powerful is your computer? If weak, get albino, if strong, get massive. Gladiator sounds good, but you should definitely NOT install the legit version. Buy it, but you may consider using the crack because it is less invasive to your system. This is of course, illegal.

I'm using Alchemy myself, but Gladiator looks nifty...how is it invasive?

Demian wrote:

nowaysj wrote:Demos demos demos.

How powerful is your computer? If weak, get albino, if strong, get massive. Gladiator sounds good, but you should definitely NOT install the legit version. Buy it, but you may consider using the crack because it is less invasive to your system. This is of course, illegal.

I'm using Alchemy myself, but Gladiator looks nifty...how is it invasive?

Same question

nowaysj wrote:Demos demos demos.

How powerful is your computer? If weak, get albino, if strong, get massive. Gladiator sounds good, but you should definitely NOT install the legit version. Buy it, but you may consider using the crack because it is less invasive to your system. This is of course, illegal.

Get Albino anyway, I love that synth...


Altho on topic for the OP, I recently bought massive (50% off FTW), and have since used it in every tune. Once you start delving into it you get mad sounds out of it!!

And it's easy to make the midrange bass in...lol

Gladiator ftw