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production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:12 pm
by 2manynoobs
alright brothas, i know this is the wrong section (well actly it's not because i'm allowed to post whatever i want in the hideout - besides cocks n pusses ofc..) so i post it here because i think the average IQ lays a fair bit higher then in the rest of the forum... but I have this production question. I used to have logic pro 9 but somehow the crack no longer worked so i was forced to use the ancient pro 8 again.
Now, the 9 had a function where you could import a break, click on some button and it would automatically count the bpm, and point out where the drumhits and the counts were etc. really handy.
but 8 doesn't have this and I remember I once saw a vid of some guy who had a technique to count the bpm and cut the nasty beginpart and end part away (so that you essentially get a nice loop) with a simple audio editor... but i forgot how to do it and i can't find the video. All i know is that it had a lot of views and it was in the program called: adobe audition..
if anyone perhaps knows the vid i'm talking about or knows a way to help me then I might even say thank you
no really, i would be very thankful because im really stuck atm

Re: production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:17 pm
by stappard
I know its not your fancy way but in this situation I trim the loop in audacity (press L to make sure its looping nicely), bring it into logic, change the logic tempo so its on a near enough whole number and then stretch audio region to nearest bar.
Re: production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:19 pm
by 2manynoobs
oooh yeah that's exactly what I was looking for! thanks you very much!
Re: production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:36 pm
by Kochari
2manynoobs wrote:
Now, the 9 had a function where you could import a break, click on some button and it would automatically count the bpm, and point out where the drumhits and the counts were etc. really handy.
...Go on

Re: production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:47 pm
by 2manynoobs
can't really remember the name of the function but it was in the list of audio
Re: production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:48 pm
by aspect-dubz
i think your talking about flex timing.. it's probably the best reason to have logic but unfortunately for you it's a tool that was only integrated in logic 9.
In what kinda circumstance would you be needing flex timing btw, i might be able to think of a workaround? If you need to "cut the nasty begin part and end part away " or if you've poorly cut up a sample then i might suggest using the crossfade tool, i use it all the time and it saves me from having to be more precise which helps with time consuming.
Re: production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:28 pm
by 2manynoobs
aspect-dubz wrote:i think your talking about flex timing.. it's probably the best reason to have logic but unfortunately for you it's a tool that was only integrated in logic 9.
In what kinda circumstance would you be needing flex timing btw, i might be able to think of a workaround? If you need to "cut the nasty begin part and end part away " or if you've poorly cut up a sample then i might suggest using the crossfade tool, i use it all the time and it saves me from having to be more precise which helps with time consuming.
no it wasn't flex time. tbh i fucking hate flex time
i don't know what it was called but it was in the list when you clicked on audio and somehow it arranged the sample and counted the bpm. Then i could set the bpm in logic to that point and then it was alright
Re: production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:43 pm
by stappard
2manynoobs wrote:aspect-dubz wrote:i think your talking about flex timing.. it's probably the best reason to have logic but unfortunately for you it's a tool that was only integrated in logic 9.
In what kinda circumstance would you be needing flex timing btw, i might be able to think of a workaround? If you need to "cut the nasty begin part and end part away " or if you've poorly cut up a sample then i might suggest using the crossfade tool, i use it all the time and it saves me from having to be more precise which helps with time consuming.
no it wasn't flex time. tbh i fucking hate flex time
i don't know what it was called but it was in the list when you clicked on audio and somehow it arranged the sample and counted the bpm. Then i could set the bpm in logic to that point and then it was alright
For me personally I like to change the audio to close bpm thats a whole number, i just have a complex about tracks at funny bpms with 3 decimel places

Re: production question
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:51 pm
by aspect-dubz
2manynoobs wrote:aspect-dubz wrote:i think your talking about flex timing.. it's probably the best reason to have logic but unfortunately for you it's a tool that was only integrated in logic 9.
In what kinda circumstance would you be needing flex timing btw, i might be able to think of a workaround? If you need to "cut the nasty begin part and end part away " or if you've poorly cut up a sample then i might suggest using the crossfade tool, i use it all the time and it saves me from having to be more precise which helps with time consuming.
no it wasn't flex time. tbh i fucking hate flex time
i don't know what it was called but it was in the list when you clicked on audio and somehow it arranged the sample and counted the bpm. Then i could set the bpm in logic to that point and then it was alright
apple loop utilities?
Re: production question
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:11 am
by keykory
Precisely edit a small part of the audio in the sample editor- say, two bars- so that it loops smoothly. I suggest using a section with a steady drum beat. Be precise by zooming wayyy in on the sound wave and chopping at the beginning of the envelope. Once you've got your loop, go to the arrange window and make the green loop cycle thingy (whatever you call it?) two bars long, and with the track of the audio file selected, click Options, Tempo, Adjust Tempo Using Region Length and Locators, and choose to change it Globally. This way is far more accurate than using Beat Detection... Make a quick check you've got it right by playing the full audio track with a metronome set to your new tempo.
Does this make sense?