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Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:06 am
by meam
Hi, i'm new here, maybee someone can help....
I'm trying to mix down a beat and got a problem with the sub that i made on massive, in fact the db is going up and down... I was thinking of the velocity vcoz i recorded midi from my keyboard, it was not... The variation are ramdom
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:08 am
by jaimelee
Just one question, are you using an LFO anywhere on the sub?
Might be clashing with other noises if you didn't give it enough headroom.
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:10 am
by samkablaam
it could be loads of things. did you make the patch yourself? if you have two oscillators slightly detuned then itll do that. or if youve got any of the lfos routed to pretty much anything itll prob do that. or envelopes.
if its a sub, just start from scratch. start with a sine or something and go from there. at least youll know whats going on with the ptch.
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:12 am
by meam
Thanks,nope, no lfo on it, or chorus or anything it's a plain....
For the head room, i tried to play the sub by it self and the same stuff is happening....
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:14 am
by meam
yep, did it my self it's just one plain sin, no detuning or anything
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:19 am
by bigfootspartan
Probably a stupid question, but what are you using as your sub, ie are you using a single sine wave, or a different waveform? Also, if you are using all 3 oscillators are they all tuned to each other (ie. one is at -12 and the other is at -24). I seem to remember having the same situation when I tried to color my sub with a bit of the magyr wavetable. Also, if you are using the dimension expander this will happen as well.
Last question, when you say it varies does it vary between notes or does it vary when you hold out a note? And when it varies are both the left and right channel changing at the same level?
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:23 am
by Origins
Any kind of compresser in the rack?
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:23 am
by JemGrover
Look into the KTR OSC settings?
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:26 am
by meam
ok, sorry for the sh...t post, i had restarted my patches from the start and it do not seem to happen, i still don't know what for....
Nope it's was a sine square and i switched off the osc just for check...No dimension expander...
I don't know how to tell, i recorded the midi from my keyboard, adjusted the velocity, then on the playback the db of the sub was going up on some note but ramdomly kind i was pusking the master fader or something....
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:28 am
by narrator
did you push up the decay on env 4??
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:30 am
by arktrix45hz
Why you're using massive for sub, I'll never know.
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:50 am
by jaimelee
arktrix wrote:Why you're using massive for sub, I'll never know.
Yeah, usually it's Operator all the way!
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:05 am
by narrator
i dont see the difference to be honest. Massive registers on an analyzer the same as operator does where low frequencies are concerned.
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:06 am
by Craggle
Im having the same problem, ill let you know if i manage to solve it !
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:49 am
by paravrais
narrator wrote:i dont see the difference to be honest. Massive registers on an analyzer the same as operator does where low frequencies are concerned.
It's a matter of keeping the project cpu friendly. Massive drains it like a bitch.
meam wrote:Nope it's was a sine square and i switched off the osc just for check...No dimension expander...
I don't know how to tell, i recorded the midi from my keyboard, adjusted the velocity, then on the playback the db of the sub was going up on some note but ramdomly kind i was pusking the master fader or something....
Well was it a square or a sine...?
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:37 am
by Dystinkt
if youv got fl just use 3xosc, its small but brilliant for subs.
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:41 am
by bubblypatrick
longshot, but go to the global settings tab and turn off external sync, you'll have to set the bpm manually though if you're lfoing
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:22 am
by deadly_habit
sure you're not just experiencing fletcher munson?
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:04 am
by nowaysj
half asleep - you have any filters on this patch? You don't need any filters. Turn that off, turn the eq off. If you want a rock steady heavy sub bass, just keep it simple. Sine and an amp envelop, end of story.
If you wanna play a bit, go for it, but your sub might be jumping. You can, of course, deal with that after the fact so long as your sub is rendered out to it's own audio channel.
Re: Problem with sub on massive
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:06 am
by samkablaam
meam wrote:ok, sorry for the sh...t post, i had restarted my patches from the start and it do not seem to happen, i still don't know what for....
Nope it's was a sine square and i switched off the osc just for check...No dimension expander...
I don't know how to tell, i recorded the midi from my keyboard, adjusted the velocity, then on the playback the db of the sub was going up on some note but ramdomly kind i was pusking the master fader or something....