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Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:01 am
by Dystinkt
I make a tune on my DAW, the mixdown sounds punchy and just right, rendered it and it still sounds the bollocks, upload to soundcload and bam it sounds shit. Why does this happen?

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:02 am
by filthy_
did you turn normalize off?

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:23 am
by Recessive Trait
there's no sub bass.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:38 am
by bubblypatrick
on one of my tracks I fixed it by using a 90000+ sample rate instead of 48000, shitty, but it fixed my bass which was having similar problems

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:25 pm
by +verb
its just the shit transcoding that soundcloud uses.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:53 pm
by harveykartel
Anytime Soundcloud has messed up one of my uploads, it seems to be a bit depth/sample rate issue.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:13 pm
by Depone
If you upload a .wav or high quality mp3, sound cloud still had to transcode it to a 128mp3 quality stream. So.. If you want to get maximum quality, make your own decent sounding 128mp3 and upload that...

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:29 pm
by deadly_habit
why have i never had this issue...

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:05 pm
by Echoi
+verb wrote:its just the shit transcoding that soundcloud uses.
Is it though?

Some peoples tracks sound perfect, others it sounds like the highs and snares are breaking up. A common problem with my uploads.

My sig track is the best upload ive had from soundcloud, sounds almost exactly how it does when i play back the mp3.

But my next track i upped sounds like turd.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:12 pm
by gnome
Echoi wrote:
+verb wrote:its just the shit transcoding that soundcloud uses.
Is it though?

Some peoples tracks sound perfect, others it sounds like the highs and snares are breaking up.
I get this all the time. All my snares sound rubbish because of it!

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:14 pm
by phrex
deadly habit wrote:why have i never had this issue...
same here

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:15 pm
by Echoi
gnome wrote:
Echoi wrote:
+verb wrote:its just the shit transcoding that soundcloud uses.
Is it though?

Some peoples tracks sound perfect, others it sounds like the highs and snares are breaking up.
I get this all the time. All my snares sound rubbish because of it!
Yup, tell me about it. Hats too, hats seem to have the same problem as some snares on peoples work.

Im quite sure it has nothing to do with clipping on mine.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:52 pm
by staticcast
Depone wrote:If you upload a .wav or high quality mp3, sound cloud still had to transcode it to a 128mp3 quality stream. So.. If you want to get maximum quality, make your own decent sounding 128mp3 and upload that...
Are you sure that 128k mp3s don't just get transcoded again?

I'm not familiar with exactly what "transcoding" entails (or if it's actually a standard process) but it seems feasible to me that it might just involve decoding to WAV and encoding again to whatever format they like. If that's the case, then 128->128 transcoding would still be pretty damaging.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:34 pm
by paravrais
deadly habit wrote:why have i never had this issue...

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:38 am
by Biscuit
I've had similar problems too with some bass and things sounding like ass after I upload.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:36 pm
by Debaser1
I used to get this problem, but ever since reading the 'moneyshot' gain structure thread, it's been less evident. If your output volume of the track is too high then soundcloud simply can't cope. Just a matter of turning stuff down and it worked for me. I'm not saying I'm presenting the definitive solution here, but it helped.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:55 am
by nowaysj
Totally have this problem. I've uploaded wav's, mp3, nothing I've uploaded sounds like it does here. No clue what it is about, I gave up on trying to figure this one out. Maybe you've got to pay to have your tracks sound okay?

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:41 am
by vazt
This has happened to me a few times. I noticed things I side chained sound fucked up on soundcloud. Sounds perfect in the wav and or mp3. Really annoying.

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:12 am
by OlzaMK
It's because your mixdown is piss

Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:38 am
by makemerich
psychoacoustics and lossy compression