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Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by Heptegone » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:40 pm

Hey guys, here's my first attempt at performing a song of mine live. I hope to perform full length mixes in the future, playing the Ableton and the Launchpad as a live instrument like the guitar. Anyways let me know what you think. The mastering in the video is pretty bad, the song is only a few days old still. You get the idea though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGK8XXYV6eg

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by Recessive Trait » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:55 pm

not a fan of drums?

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by silkpantsman » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:12 am

no offense dude but unless you got drum pads a set of keys a shit load of knobs and your brain fried with custom daw templates then you aint even on the same page as a live performance!! And thats just the tip of the iceberg when you consider your trying to create 1 big playable "instrument" => on the fly synth programming. Keep up the gud work but just dont call what your doing live...its only the road to getting started.
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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by collective » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:23 am

silkpantsman wrote:no offense dude but unless you got drum pads a set of keys a shit load of knobs and your brain fried with custom daw templates then you aint even on the same page as a live performance!! And thats just the tip of the iceberg when you consider your trying to create 1 big playable "instrument" => on the fly synth programming. Keep up the gud work but just dont call what your doing live...its only the road to getting started.
with a launchpad and seven-up, mlr or any monome emu you can be totally live.

But I will agree that having keys and pads is a nice aesthetic. As much as you can get away from the computer. If I am not going only hardware, My live pa consists of an mbase01, moogerfooger 104z, launchpad running a custom max patch, bitstream, some sort of keys, mpd, and whatever oer instruments I bring along. My computer doesn't even have to be open, in fact, using touchable my computer can be closed and put away.

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by silkpantsman » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:54 pm

collective wrote:
silkpantsman wrote:no offense dude but unless you got drum pads a set of keys a shit load of knobs and your brain fried with custom daw templates then you aint even on the same page as a live performance!! And thats just the tip of the iceberg when you consider your trying to create 1 big playable "instrument" => on the fly synth programming. Keep up the gud work but just dont call what your doing live...its only the road to getting started.
with a launchpad and seven-up, mlr or any monome emu you can be totally live.

But I will agree that having keys and pads is a nice aesthetic. As much as you can get away from the computer. If I am not going only hardware, My live pa consists of an mbase01, moogerfooger 104z, launchpad running a custom max patch, bitstream, some sort of keys, mpd, and whatever oer instruments I bring along. My computer doesn't even have to be open, in fact, using touchable my computer can be closed and put away.
that sounds like a cool set up...and your right i suppose you have to keep your live set up as live as you can for your level of ability with the hardware you got and its one of the reasons live electronic music really interests me...just saw mount kimbie playing live on the boiler room and the tracks are gr8 def one of my fav artist but as far as live goes the keys barely get touched and the ni machine is not used to play the drums just launch them and its all just a bit...not live "for me"...and they have no excuse ders 2 of them...im not saying this as a producer im saying it as a music fan. quick question for you...how do you go about producing your music like the separation of jamming on your hardware to the programming side of things any tips?? really enjoyed the sig track aswell...mucho respect.
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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by step correct » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:31 pm

Live is the way to go. I don't see why constructing your own loops and triggering them isn't considered "live".. just playing tunes in Ableton or whatever is pretty whack though IMO.
In a day and age where just about every Tom and Dick is a digital DJ and soon even Harry can run beat matching apps off his iPhone I feel the whole live thing is where we'll be able to separate talent from the juke boxes. Not to open a new can of worms or anything but this is def the next Vinyl v Digital, CDJs v. Turntables argument lol. :cornlol:

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by drokkr » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:41 pm

I use Ableton and an Edriol PCR 300 keyboard to control everything for my gigs.
Pads and some keys mapped as triggers, pots mapped to FX and EQs and faders mapped to volume and some FX... I try to have the Lappy to one side(if there is room, rare tho') if I can for gigs too. Hiding away behind the screen is not a good look and from experience, most flok actually like to see you doing stuff.
Try to work that it evolves from one thing to the next and not have it so start stop as you move to new parts.

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by collective » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:10 pm

silkpantsman wrote:
collective wrote:
silkpantsman wrote:no offense dude but unless you got drum pads a set of keys a shit load of knobs and your brain fried with custom daw templates then you aint even on the same page as a live performance!! And thats just the tip of the iceberg when you consider your trying to create 1 big playable "instrument" => on the fly synth programming. Keep up the gud work but just dont call what your doing live...its only the road to getting started.
with a launchpad and seven-up, mlr or any monome emu you can be totally live.

But I will agree that having keys and pads is a nice aesthetic. As much as you can get away from the computer. If I am not going only hardware, My live pa consists of an mbase01, moogerfooger 104z, launchpad running a custom max patch, bitstream, some sort of keys, mpd, and whatever oer instruments I bring along. My computer doesn't even have to be open, in fact, using touchable my computer can be closed and put away.
that sounds like a cool set up...and your right i suppose you have to keep your live set up as live as you can for your level of ability with the hardware you got and its one of the reasons live electronic music really interests me...just saw mount kimbie playing live on the boiler room and the tracks are gr8 def one of my fav artist but as far as live goes the keys barely get touched and the ni machine is not used to play the drums just launch them and its all just a bit...not live "for me"...and they have no excuse ders 2 of them...im not saying this as a producer im saying it as a music fan. quick question for you...how do you go about producing your music like the separation of jamming on your hardware to the programming side of things any tips?? really enjoyed the sig track aswell...mucho respect.
You know I felt the same way about mount kimbie, its clear they are still becoming comfortable with their setup. It is an unending process.

As for producing music to bode well for jamming. Part of my max patch, is a 8 row 16 step sequencer (it can be more or less), this and my keys and whatever instruments I decide to bring allow for a lot of space to jam. I use to use a 8 pedal midi foot controller so I could loop parts i jammed in, but got ride of it when it made things loopy for too long. There is still a fair amount of clip launching happening even though it's probably 'mostly live. Creating beats, playing bass, playing keys, are usually the way to jam, but you can really only do one at once. I have struggled with how to translate songs, so usually you won't hearmany of mine live, but if I do decide to play one, I'll usually have to decide what parts will be best played live (usually beat, bass and lead as some keys can get pretty out of control). Fear I did not clear anything up for you.

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by misk » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:00 pm

monome 128 grayscale with mlrV (soon to be 2.0!!!) running all original material through. Honestly, I kill it every time i play, and people love to see me play. the other night someone said "its like watching you make beats live!!"..

lol not sure about that, but it's a million times more fun than djing. and I love to press buttons rhythmically :D

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by decklyn » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:19 pm

I've been started down the road to live pa.
Defo right now I"m using it more as a DJ tune but with harmonic mixing and tunes cut up into bits I'm able to bring a WAY more interested set than I ever thought possible.
Plus I bring my own loops out and a bunch of knobs and faders.
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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by Isturite » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:50 pm

i've been using the launchpad for my sets too... I bounce my tracks to 4 audio tracks per song then into 8-16 loops depending on how long I want each one... I do a mix of loop dj'ing and live pa... The only thing I don't do live usually is my drums, I do those with loops and play my basslines and melodies on my mpk25 and do all my live effect on my knobs and with the launchpad... still not fully live pa, but it's closer to it that just mixing my loops, or more so whole tracks

my main issue is when I mix two tracks at bpms that are too far apart... so I'll produce a loop that has no rhythmic content so that I can mix in something with a different bpm...

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by nowaysj » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:56 am

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Re: Novation Launchpad (live dubstep performance)

Post by Shum » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:13 am

Bumping this informative thread, currently noodling about with one of these at the moment.

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