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Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID's?

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:45 am
by Kreuzprodukt
Hey,

in case you dont know me yet, my name is Philipp, im 20 years old and settled in a small village 10 minutes, as well as kilometers, outside of vienna, the capital city of austria.
A few days ago I asked for a Tune ID in the 'Tune ID's'-Thread.
Today I came back to see if someone identified my track allready but unfortunately noone knew it. As same as all the other tracks before and after my post.

Why is there such a low identification-rate?
Is this because Dubstep is a very young Genre and there are massiv quantities of new tracks lately?


Im looking forward to your answers,
and please dont mind my english, i know its awful ;)
Kind regards, Philipp

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:49 am
by ashley
It's probably because all of the tune ID's are thrown into that same thread.

If there was a better form of managing these requests then the hit rate could be a lot higher.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:50 am
by ashley
p.s. this is the tune:



it's on the magnetic man album titled 'Magnetic Man'

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:00 am
by fractal
Probably cause people can't be bothered. All tunes become ID'd in time :lol:

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:01 am
by Shum
What Fractal said.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:56 am
by WatchYourStep
Whenever I needed a tune ID'd, I'd go through the posts before me and ID like 3 or 4 tunes for people to jack up my karma, then when nobody ID'd mine I was like fuck this shit.

Basically

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:14 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
humans are lazy.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:28 am
by LA_Boxers
Badgers.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:48 am
by quidz
I think everyone has tried for a while, at some point to be helpful in that thread..unfortunately the same tracks are asked time and time again and people lose enthusiasm and get tired of answering..
There is an overwhelming amount of IDs unanswered every day now and nobody can really be bothered.

Your best bet now is to try and contact the DJ you heard play it perhaps..or put it up on youtube and hope that someone stumbles across it with the knowledge. I have had quite a bit of luck doing both.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:22 am
by seckle
the id thing is a growing issue on this site. we have more than five 24 hour radio channels in this sound. where do you think all those people go to id the tunes? here for the most part.

i know the radio stations all have their own forums and own websites, so it would really help if they could try to directly offset some of the questions. i know it would be hard to accomplish, but if these 24hr radio sites could ask for song titles in sets, and made those titles available immediately after show times, then there wouldn't be an issue. the problem is the small amount of people that make threads about something played on ______.fm, without naming the show or even naming the dj, just..." i heard this tune last saturday at 7pm, and OMG, its soooo good. help me". so when no one responds or can help them, then they get rude, and tell people off??? this is what this forum is facing on a daily basis right now. i'm not saying that its not welcome on the forum, but the attitude that comes with the questions is out of hand. this is a global website, on nearly 10 time zones. the dubstep world doesn't revolve around people id'ing tunes or requesting id's for tunes every day. have some patience and tact, and maybe go to the website of the show and ask the dj directly.

hopefully, someone makes some sort of pandora ID site, to solve this growing problem with 24hr internet radio.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:53 am
by Ashburner
Kreuzprodukt wrote:Hey,

in case you dont know me yet, my name is Philipp, im 20 years old and settled in a small village 10 minutes, as well as kilometers, outside of vienna, the capital city of austria.
:D:

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:10 pm
by nicenice
What village you in, I live just outside of Vienna too.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:19 pm
by fractal
seckle wrote: hopefully, someone makes some sort of pandora ID site, to solve this growing problem with 24hr internet radio.
with shazam id capabilities... genius! i just need to get pandora's source code and i can whip something up :D

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:49 am
by johnboy01
Making a section of the forum dedicated exclusively to tune ID is idiotic, because nobody logs on to the forum with the exclusive aim of identifying tracks for random brosteppers. Most successfully ID'd tunes happen when people stumble upon them by chance on the general discussion section and decide to I'D them because they happen to know the answer off the top of their head.

I politely pointed this out before but some boy scout bureaucrat deleted my post, regarding it as subversive rather than progressive.

If there's one thing you can depend on austrians for, it's improving efficiency. Change is good, donkey.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:50 am
by cosmic_surgeon
ashley wrote:It's probably because all of the tune ID's are thrown into that same thread.

If there was a better form of managing these requests then the hit rate could be a lot higher.
:W: Thought this myself a million times.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:54 am
by badger
that may well be true, but leaving them to clog up the main forum is not the solution. if you can think of a better solution then we're happy to hear it but if not then this imperfect way is going to have to do

why don't you set something up on getdarker ashley?

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:00 pm
by DRTY
a 'thanks' or 'rep' system.

People don't do things when there's no benefit for themselves.

Although these things are easily abused.

Re: Why is there such a low identification-rate for Tune ID'

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:03 pm
by ashley
badger wrote:that may well be true, but leaving them to clog up the main forum is not the solution. if you can think of a better solution then we're happy to hear it but if not then this imperfect way is going to have to do

why don't you set something up on getdarker ashley?
Because I'm too busy looking into Fast Fourier Transform algortithms and finding the average frequency in audio snippets and comparing them against a library of parts to worry about some kids YouTube video.

But an idea would be a sub forum with topics posted automatically converted to stickies whenc reated and then made back to normal threads when marked resolved. But I don't think the technical capability of whoever actually runs this board is there to make it possible :6: