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Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:04 pm
by jogfuture
The copy of this I got yesterday plays really weirdly; the B-side is fine, but Sinners seems to speed up and slow down - its really weird! I thought it was just my imagination at first.

The record is very slightly warped but by no means the worst I've ever got from chemical. It might just be my decks, but all my other records play fine so I was wondering if anyone else was having trouble with their copy?

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:43 am
by Capture pt
best would be to email chemical - they may have had other complaints, or they can contact the distro to find out.

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:04 am
by MPathy
I haven't got this through yet but electric church seems like a bit of a shit press too. I haven't noticed the speed up or slowing down but their seems to be no weight to it and is pretty warped. The TMSV release also holds no weight to it but I'm not sure if it meant to be like that or not...

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:10 am
by brasco
No problems here

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:21 pm
by MPathy
Got mine through yesterday and although one side sounds decent, the other sounds pretty weak. I cant remember which though. Oh and It's warped so skips on one side when trying to queue it (exactly what happens with electric church). Such a shame as the music its self is brilliant but the bent 10"ers are not doing it any justice.

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:37 pm
by skotyb
It's good when you pay hard earned money for shit isn't it.

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:31 pm
by andy static
iv got 1, 2 and 3 and they all que and play spot on

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:05 pm
by MPathy
andy static wrote:iv got 1, 2 and 3 and they all que and play spot on
Salt in the wound.

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:12 pm
by murky21
mine got delivered today, will let you know what mine is like when i get home...

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:27 pm
by brasco
skotyb wrote:It's good when you pay hard earned money for shit isn't it.
Bit unfair to say the least. If there is a pressing issue, which shockingly does happen, then return it and get another copy.

I love vinyl, but its future isn't helped when people mouth off like that. They didn't do it on purpose did they?!
I've had problems with warped records, but I just return it and get another copy instead of referring to it as shit on a public forum :4:

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:33 pm
by curly123
I know what you're saying about the weight man, if you cue it a little bit hard it just skips out, and cold seems to speed up and slow down, hmmmmm :confused:

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:43 pm
by leslie
my electric church does speed up and slow down, just thought it was the tune at first!

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:52 pm
by wolf89
My box clever stuff seeems fine

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:15 pm
by BENTON001
Big ups all... sorry about any issue anyones having with their presses, mine seemed fine when i got it! -q-

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:17 pm
by thinking
this is the first I've heard or seen of any pressing issues at all with any of the Box Clever releases - if you have a problem with a product you buy I'd much rather you take it up with the place you bought it, or the label, rather than plastering negative comments like this on the internet.


To answer a few points raised in this thread:

- weight of vinyl has absolutely NOTHING to do with the sound quality of the record. I personally don't like 180g weight vinyl for various reasons, including using less plastic and keeping weight down, so I use regular weight vinyl from MPO pressing in France which is the same as many many other dubstep records you probably own.

- pitching tunes can be caused by 2 things. Either an eccentric (off-centre) pressing, and I can say for sure that no Box Clever is mispressed in this way, or it's a warped disc. If the latter, then I refer you to the above and recommend you take it up with your shop, or maybe the label, and ask for a replacement.

- if a record skips when you cue, it's more likely to be a problem with your deck setup. Once again, I've never had a problem cueing with a Box Clever TP or finished copy.


Feel free to contact me if you have a problem with one of my records - it's far preferable to negative threads like this.

Cheers. :4:

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:30 pm
by DREdio
i was having trouble with the TMSV release changing speed but it turned out that my slip mats were too slippery. I swapped em out for a different pair and the issue was resolved

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:37 pm
by joeki
On a completely irrelevant side note.

Thinking, why do you dislike 180 gram vinyl? I wish everyone would use it. Nice and heavy, good weight. Less chance of breaking or bending... I love my 180 gram vinyls and wish more electronic music labels would print on it.

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:46 pm
by thinking
I find it harder to get on/off the deck - I prefer a flexible plate. Also because of the extra weight, I find that if you're spinning a record hard in one direction, it's a lot harder to stop/reverse in a hurry - basically I think it makes cueing harder, which is particularly annoying if you're mixing quick!

Also, like I say it makes no difference to the quality of the pressing, so it's just pointless extra weight!!

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:09 pm
by murky21
just got home, copy delivered from red-eye, and pleased to say its perfect can cue it furiously with no jumps and banged out a quality mix first time so no issues with timing
i got all the other box clever releases on digital but this 1 was too sick so went for wax, glad i did, 10"s are wicked plus loving the cut-out in the sleeve :)
big ups

Re: Dodgy press of Benton - Sinners (Box Clever 04) ??

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:25 pm
by Tama Wits
neeeed dis tune. or any other tunes on boxclever. iv'e never owned a 10".