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Could anyone give me any tips on how to make a Flux Pavillion-type bass?
That Ringy/screechy but bassy-bass
or anything sorta like it
any help would be great!

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try putting your mic next to your food processor

try recording the sound of a monkey having its balls chopped off

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Do a military parade where they fire a cannon.
record said cannon firing.

Got yourself your very own bass cannon!!



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Okay, Ill be serious for you as NOONE else is going to.

Its not a bass. Its a lead, layered with a sub. You gotta grasp that. The fact is most brostep sounds are so high frequency now they couldnt move a tweeter much less a sub, and layering with a real sine sub is the golden ticket here. Its not 'ringy' and 'bassy' there is one element thatringy, one thats bassy, and thier in synchronicity with each other tricking you into percieving it as one thing.

So get a good lead. Use some ring modulation, short phase delays, bitcrushing, ect to get it good and ringy, then make another synth, get a good sine sub, and copy the midi for your lead too it. Route them to the same summing bus in your mixer, and put a bit of a warmer/exciter on it to glue them together.

Basic A wrote:Okay, Ill be serious for you as NOONE else is going to.

Its not a bass. Its a lead, layered with a sub. You gotta grasp that. The fact is most brostep sounds are so high frequency now they couldnt move a tweeter much less a sub, and layering with a real sine sub is the golden ticket here. Its not 'ringy' and 'bassy' there is one element thatringy, one thats bassy, and thier in synchronicity with each other tricking you into percieving it as one thing.

So get a good lead. Use some ring modulation, short phase delays, bitcrushing, ect to get it good and ringy, then make another synth, get a good sine sub, and copy the midi for your lead too it. Route them to the same summing bus in your mixer, and put a bit of a warmer/exciter on it to glue them together.

Thank you so much man!!!
You are the balls.

the balls? lolwut.

whose balls? what?

Basic A wrote:Okay, Ill be serious for you as NOONE else is going to.

Its not a bass. Its a lead, layered with a sub. You gotta grasp that. The fact is most brostep sounds are so high frequency now they couldnt move a tweeter much less a sub, and layering with a real sine sub is the golden ticket here. Its not 'ringy' and 'bassy' there is one element thatringy, one thats bassy, and thier in synchronicity with each other tricking you into percieving it as one thing.

So get a good lead. Use some ring modulation, short phase delays, bitcrushing, ect to get it good and ringy, then make another synth, get a good sine sub, and copy the midi for your lead too it. Route them to the same summing bus in your mixer, and put a bit of a warmer/exciter on it to glue them together.

That's not necessarily true. It's possible to create patches that have heavy bass in addition to the high/lead sound. It's all about tweaking your oscillators. High Rankin explains it here:



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Basic A wrote: That's not necessarily true. It's possible to create patches that have heavy bass in addition to the high/lead sound. It's all about tweaking your oscillators. High Rankin explains it here:

Layering with a second instance of massive and using a sub oscillator are nearly the same thing, except you have more flexibility (and an extra oscillator) with the former.

Lot of reporting posts going on up in hur, what's going on guys??

oh.

If you're using massive
here's a patch

I made it a while ago, but abandoned the project
http://www.mediafire.com/?ixg3n9m751cxumi

Add some resonance and EQ

I think you'll find that Basic A is right (as usual). The key to any dubstep track is the SUB. I tend to get my midrange sound and roll off all the bottom end to give the sub somewhere to sit. EQ'ing it is like a jigsaw really, they should all slot into place to give you an overall hypothetical flat line EQ. The gaps that you create with the EQ with the midrange basses are filled with the sub bass. That is why you get this fat sound as well as in your face schreechery.

Another point to note is something Reso said in his brilliant masterclass tutorial. Subtractive EQing is better. So rather than boosting the certain frequencies you want, reduce the ones you don't want. So with your midrange basses, reduce all the low end frequencies, and with your sub, reduce all your high end frequencies. Theoretically, when blended together, it should give a nice full sound without any clashing frequencies. Add compression, maximisers, exciters and whatnot to an external bus (as Basic A says) and voila!!

In massive osc 1 set it on formant and turn the intensity all the way up. Osc 2 set to sine wave. done

Easiest patch ever.

CBK81 wrote:In massive osc 1 set it on formant and turn the intensity all the way up. Osc 2 set to sine wave. done

Easiest patch ever.

It's best to have the sub and mid range as separate entities though man. Cus if you do as you said, and then you want to add a bitcrusher, or distortion or even modulation, it'll affect the sub - and you need the sub to be as clean as possible. People seem to forget that where all the power of brostep comes from is meaty but squeaky clean subs layered underneath the filth.

Yea but if you want the straight flux sound, that's all it is to it. You don't have to make it as two different subs either, you can use a multiband compressor and route effects to any band you want, sort of like resampling in a way.

To the guy that said you could do it all in massive, and then linked the youtube video, that video does exactly what the post you were coming back too said, it layers a sine sub under the lead. It just does it all in one instance of massive, not unique to the synth, kinda fgures it was a given you could do it that way too, considerng.

Aquathesis wrote:To the guy that said you could do it all in massive, and then linked the youtube video, that video does exactly what the post you were coming back too said, it layers a sine sub under the lead. It just does it all in one instance of massive, not unique to the synth, kinda fgures it was a given you could do it that way too, considerng.

No. Because if you want to distort the bass sound or use a bitcrusher or whatever then it'll distort the sub too - which is never good. Subs are CLEAN